Who's Afraid of Rand Paul?

[depakid]

Tuesday's election results were pretty good for progressives. The retirement of that windbag chameleon Sen. Arlen Specter is long overdue, and pro-labor forces were able to push Sen. Blanche Lincoln into a runoff in Arkansas. Even the big tea party win in Kentucky has its bright side.

Count me as one lefty liberal who is not the least bit unhappy with the victory by Rand Paul in Kentucky's Republican primary for the U.S. Senate. Not because it might make it easier for some Democratic Party hack to win in the general, but rather because he seems to be a principled libertarian in the mold of his father, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, and we need more of that impulse in the Congress. What's wrong with cutting back big government that mostly exists to serve the interests of big corporations? Surely it would be better if that challenge came from populist progressives of the left, in the Bernie Sanders mold, but this is Kentucky we're talking about.

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-scheer/whos-afraid-of-rand-paul_b_581296.html

[Kurska]

1. I read his name and then threw up.

Why not just call the kid "Bitch Idiot", same effect.

[saracat]

2. I don't have have any respect for anyone whose priciples involve the repeal of the Americans with

Diabilities Act.

[Kurska]

3. People think "principled" means good.

What they don't realize is the hardliners who live and die by Ron Paul's branch of libertarianism are even less likely to work with us then the pukes.

[depakid]

4. There's a larger picture that we ought all to look at

which is the gist of Robert Scheers's article.

[Kurska]

5. Give me scum I can work with over the kind who won't even consider

Not that we have either, but in the house a vote is a vote.

[saracat]

6. Libertarians cannot be worked with. Have you ever really dealt with one?

Ron Paul is an abomination. As a woman, he could care less about my rights and there is NO COMPROMISE. I am sure Rand is much the same on many issues.They cannot be worked with at all and they will not vote with the liberals.

[Kurska]

12. That was my point, Neo-cons will sell their own mother out for crumbs sometimes.

Libertarians no.

[wolfgangmo]

27. Sell out no.

Shoot mom in the head to keep her from taking the crumbs herself. Yes.

[obliviously]

7. what is priciples and Diabilities?

[Kurska]

10. They are called some posters are younger, don't speak English well or make honest mistakes.

My main "priciple" is not being a ass and your "diabilitie" is your inabillity to not be a jerk.

That answer your question?

[obliviously]

13. Spell check is furnished for everyone.

[Kurska]

14. Class obviously isn't.

[mwb970]

23. It's hard to imagine what question *that* outburst would answer.

Maybe the question was "Can Kurska write a coherent comment in English?" If it was, then yes, your post answered the question.

:eyes:

[saracat]

15. Sorry. My typing is for crap. I should have used spell check. I apologize.

[obliviously]

34. I have a lot of room to talk!

I type with one finger and spell check saves my ass.

[notadmblnd]

9. yeah, he say put people with disabilities on the ground floor instead of spendng money on elevators

like a disabled person should be limited in their mobility. The other thing is his that private businesses should be able to run their businesses as they see fit and if they want to segregate, they should be able to. We should not horn in on private business and their policies. I found myself wondering during his conversation with Racheal Maddow, if business should be able to sell us food with bugs and rats in it too and if the government should keep their noses out of that?

Just another crazy, screwed up in his thinking over money. He's not credible in my book. His argument doesn't make sense.

[Kurska]

11. I was in a wheelchair for 3 months this year after I broke my foot.

I have NO IDEA what I would have done if my college wasn't handicap accessible, I would have had to get someone to carry me or transfer to another school. I can't even imagine the horrors disabled persons went through before those laws were put in place.

Imagine losing your legs and then on top of that being completely unable to get around because you have wheels instead of legs. Horrifying, Ron Paul is a douchebag.

[wolfgangmo]

28. Not to split infinitives but ...

Corporate food companies are already allowed to sell us food with rats and bugs (and worse) in it and the government turns a blind eye.

[thucythucy]

32. Not that Paul has any idea what the ADA actually does.

He illustrates his problem with the law by citing a completely bogus "for instance" of a two-story small business "forced" to spend "$100,000" on an elevator, instead of letting the person with the disability work on the first floor.

He obviously has never read the ADA, has no idea what "reasonable accommodation" and terms like "undue burden" "undue hardship" mean when applied under the law. Basically, he is simply repeating some BS talking point he picked up from other libertarians, or who knows? maybe he made this one up all by himself.

For people with disabilities who fought to pass the ADA, this is the equivalent of going after health care reform by claiming it will create "death panels." Hyper partisan right wing BS from people who have no idea what they're talking about.

The ADA was passed 20 years ago, and the right wing is still trying to kill it. But I guess that's no stranger than trying to go after the Civil Rights Act of 1964, or the Social Security Act of 1935.

Anyway, thank you Saracat, for drawing our attention to this issue.

[jtuck004]

8. I wish Rachael had read him the words from my mortgage deed, where

it says that if the house is sold to a "negroe" the property reverts back to the builder. Want to see more? Go look up the mortgages in your town from the 50's in your local county clerks office.

The work on civil rights in the 60's made those provisions in contracts unenforceable, but I know people who would put them back today if they could.

If we let private business make it's own rules, that's what you get. Unless he thinks that builders should have "less rights" than lunch counters at Woolworths.

Separate - ANYWHERE - ain't equal, Rand boy. Whether it's color, age, sexual preference, gender, or disability. We need for everyone to achieve all they can. (So let's drop tution at the colleges and stop turning them into a haven for the well-off. But I digress<G>).

[wolfgangmo]

29. +1

Separate ain't equal.


Preach it JTuck. Amen, brothers and sisters, amen.


http://www.mlkonline.net/video-i-have-a-dream-speech.html

[DarthDem]

16. Ummmm

Let's worry about how palatable Rand Paul is if he, y'know, actually becomes a U.S. Senator. In the meantime, don't let this get around, but there's an ACTUAL DEMOCRAT - - and a progessive one - - in the race in the form of Jack Conway, who triumphed over a conservadem in the primary and stands an excellent chance of beating Paul.

[era veteran]

19. The media loves his name

R Paul is not a Kentuckian, he carpetbagged in to teabag now.http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8368102

[Ranting_Wacko]

17. Rand is a racist opportunistic nutter like his dad, plain and simple - NT-

[LawnKorn]

18. Rand Paul will forever be a glittering jewel for a vocal minority's defeat by an educated majority

Jack Conway is going to take the race with a double digit advantage leaving the Tea Party standing in stunned amazement as to how the loudest screamers failed to get the most votes.

[wolfgangmo]

30. Do you have a link to donate to Conway?

I can't find one (disclosure - I didn't look too hard)?

Let's throw some $$$ his way and help out.

[LawnKorn]

33. Here ya go ..

Contributions or gifts to Conway for Senate are not tax-deductible for federal income tax purposes.

http://jackconway.org

[Celebration]

20. I'm glad he won the primary for many reasons

None of which have anything to do with agreeing with him on much of anything. I don't know his foreign policy proclivities, but if he is like his dad, at least he is sick of wars. Other than that, I just like it that he is shaking up the Republican party a bit. He's a fruitcake, but compared to Palin he's rock solid. :rofl:

[saltpoint]

21. I'm not encouraged by at he racist component in some of Rand Paul's

public comments or personally-held views.

His supporters are a bit of a mixed bag, too. Anyone's are, yes, but Paul's seem a lot more mixed than one would hope for. I want them to be more discerning on the racial component. I want them to be faster on the draw. It takes Red Riding Hood far too long to grasp that the wolf in grandma's bed doesn't look all that much like grandma.

[vercetti2021]

22. LOL!!!

Ok i wouldn't be scared of this TP Runner, he's a typical we want our country back blah blah talkers, meaning this guy can't even answer a simple question on rachael and to think anyone would worry if he would win, Kentucky has twice the democratic vote then the repukes did combined! LOL and i can't wait to see a debate between him and Conway, it will be a slaughter fest.

[Mr. Sparkle]

24. I would take a rand paul over a neo -con any day.

there is common ground to be got among the libertarians and liberals, while there is none with the other right wing freaks.

[Pholus]

25. Some.

But, having lived in AZ and been called a "Statist Authoritarian" for defending what they were calling the "Americans with No Abilities Act," I would posit that the common ground is only against the worst case abuses of the right wing freaks.

[Mr. Sparkle]

31. Yeah , thats the part of them i have a problem with.

I always like to say to them, if you don't like government intervention in your life, then move to Somalia, you will love it there.

Some of them are level headed, but then their are others who hate any government involvement at all.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

26. Women who believe in their right to privacy --

for starters. The guy is a pro-life extremist.