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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:23 PM Original message |
US economy needs more stimulus, Stiglitz says |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. Drunk needs more whiskey |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The excess of debt is not what is dragging us down. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Debt sure is the problem |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. anybody who say's the stimulus didn't work is out of there fucking mind. I'll take rational thought |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You just posted an article that says exactly that |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. it didn't pay off because it wasn't designed properly.... |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Stiglitz being an intelligent man always said the stimulus was TOO SMALL - identifiying tax cuts as |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. The real number is likely much higher than $700B by the way |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The article referred to at link is nonsense. He uses different limits for defining costs |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Wow..... |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. here read this, then maybe you'll understand Stiglitz better |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. So in other words, |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. You were trying to say Stiglitz did not think "stimulus" per se works. I showed that is NOT what he |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. No, I was saying it did not work. I don't care what Stiglitz says. |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. I know you don't care what Stigliltz, Krugman, Reich, Zandi, Blinder say. who are they, just |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Tell you what slick, lets revisit this post in one year. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Studies show it kept us from unemployment in the mid-teens. nt |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. No..... tweaking the statistics kept us from unemployment in the mid-teens |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I was hoping you would challenge that |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Its a little early to use the word "Avert". We don't know how this is going |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Are you even going to read anything before your knee pops up? nt |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Can you prove without a doubt that it is no longer a possibility then? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. We are looking at a Japanese style "lost decade" |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Can you back that up with explicit proof - that Unemployment rate has been redefined since the |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. We were also lied to about the Gulf Oil Gusher too. |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. you'll have to provide a source/link for your claim, preferably from Dept Labor site. |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Now, if my point is that the govt stats aren't |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Economists agree: Stimulus created nearly 3 million jobs |
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Tiras De Carne Seca (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Seriously.......... Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase? |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Alan Blinder, former vice-Chairman of the FED Reserve, Mark Zandi, Chief Economist Moody's Analytics |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. hows about we look at current conditions which belie any increase in interest rates |
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South End Liberal (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. Why more stimulus does not replace real jobs. |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Outsourceing is a HUGE part of the problem. The article you sited makes an incontrovertable point. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
34. Jobs, we need jobs. Enough good jobs, everything else will straighten up. nt |
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