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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:08 PM
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Who do the Democrats want to be?
http://www.dailykos.com/

When Barack Obama drubbed decrepit former Republican hero John McCain, it was more than a mere change of political leadership, it was generational, and it seemed to signal an epochal maturation of the electorate. Polls showed that people truly wanted transformational change. They were ready to reject a known past and embrace an unknown future.

That just two years later the Democrats received their own electoral drubbing would seem absurdly incongruous. That the very people so decisively defeated would be returned to power would seem to defy both logic and common sense. But that assumes that most voters are as politically aware as are most activists, that most people have the time and energy and make the effort to steep themselves in the intricacies of policy. We know that isn't the case. And with people having to struggle harder to make ends meet, to find jobs in a depressed labor market, to earn adequate wages as income disparity and home foreclosures shatter record levels, it's little wonder that so many are angry and restive and end up falling victim to political narratives concocted by manipulators and charlatans, from right-wing PACs to traditional corporatist media hacks. People know something is fundamentally wrong and demand change. Things don't improve enough and they demand change from the change. And now just months into the new Republican House and a slate of new Republican governors, the polls show that the electorate already wants change from the change from the change. And it actually makes sense.

What this means is that the enormous political opportunity of two years ago, which was seemingly lost just months ago, remains viable. The Republicans learned nothing from their electoral disasters of 2006 and 2008, and if anything, have grown even more ridiculous and dangerous. They are now open about it: They are waging war on labor, on women, on immigrants, on the environment, and on people in general. They are wholly owned tools of a corporate oligarchy, and democracy itself is in their crosshairs. But among the people, the spirit of democracy and opportunity and the goal of a bolder modern future are very much alive and well. They only need a champion. The Democrats still need to decide if they want to be that champion. The means are there. The opportunity is there. The public support is there. The question is about political will. The question about will is not about strength or boldness, it is about ideology.

Will Democrats seize this unlikliest of historic moments, seemingly lost but still awaiting to be seized? It's not enough to be better than a political party that is ludicrously inept and deliberately destructive, it's a question of who the Democrats want to be. Do they want to stand with the people now taking to the streets by the hundreds of thousands? Do they want to do more than acknowledge these immediate political crises and take it that critical step farther, to an agenda that confronts the elite special interests that are so intentionally toxic to the functions of democracy and justice and to the very idea of broad economic security? The Democrats are better than the Republicans. That's a given. The Democrats are capable of accomplishing greater goods toward which the Republicans not only don't aspire but of which Republicans can't even conceive. But do Democrats want merely to be better than Republicans? Do they want to continue to define themselves mostly by which increments of extremism they have managed to block or delay this time, or do they want to try being habitually and ideologically proactive and positive?

More at Dkos. As always, the comment thread is worth spending some time with.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:13 PM
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1. It's obvious the DLC Dems want to be the OTHER corporate white meat
Which is going to keep the GOP politically on life support instead of pulling it's plug the way a genuine return to the New Deal consensus would.
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:24 PM
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3. I was just going to say the same thing but you summed it up better
As long as they are more worried about their viability as such ( no matter what ) rather than representing their traditional ( and very much present and accounted for ) base, we'll continue to get this "lesser of two evils" crapola.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 12:41 AM
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8. they don't even care about their electoral viability--on the big issues, progressive positions would
be more popular with voters. They are just playing to the money people exclusively.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:54 PM
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2. And the dems will waste another opportunity....
They will continue to try and thread the needle between doing just the absolute minimum to get the votes of the working and middle class in America where they can by paying lip service to the former beliefs the party used to stand for, but at the same time continuing to be the "me too" party in terms of doing what they can to grab corporate cash.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:22 PM
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4. I think you pegged it there. nt
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:38 AM
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10. You're right they've been doing this for years,nothing changes.
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:29 AM
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11. SO CRUSH THEM IN THE PRIMARIES.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:34 PM
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5. It's about the lack of political choice and the democrats and republicans know this all too well
because they've nearly closed off ballot access. But that doesn't mean another party is impossible, just alot of damn hard work. When do we start???
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 10:03 PM
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6. Either a lot of work
or a charismatic figure who can convince people he has the answers. For good or ill, the country wants someone who will lead. Look at the way people responded to Obama. There's really a vacuum at the top. Eventually it will be filled.
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creon Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 10:29 PM
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7. Unclear
It has been unclear throughout much of the history of the party, going back to Jackson/Van Buren
The Democratic party - and will Rogers called it pretty accurately - has never been well organized or united in terms of principles/doctrine.

Today is no different. The party is about as divided as the country.

This country does not have working majority very often; and, when it does, that majority is fairly short lived.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 11:55 AM
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13. Yes, Democrats don't have the same tunnel vision as the GOP.
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creon Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:18 PM
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14. I agree
They do not.

Many of them may be ineffectual; but, few are mean spirited.
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kimsarah Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 03:10 AM
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9. Who do the Democrats want to be?
Everything the Republicans aren't, starting with a heart and half a brain.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 11:23 AM
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12. So as long as Democrats stay just to the left
of Republicans that's good enough? That's whate we have now, and it sucks.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:25 PM
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15. With few exceptions, I think they aspire to be wealthy plutocrats. nt
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