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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:24 PM
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Paul Ryan's Medicare Plan Worries Local Voters (Janesville, WI)

There responses are lukewarm. Makes we wonder --I think they will still vote him in for an 8th term.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/09/paul-ryan-medicare-plan-_n_847067.html

Paul Ryan's Medicare Plan Worries Local Voters
Paul Ryan Medicare Plan

DINESH RAMDE 04/ 9/11 03:46 PM ET AP


JANESVILLE, Wis.

"I think that's one of the things they should probably leave alone – you know – unless it's absolutely necessary," Krutsch said as he took a break from reviewing job openings at the Rock County Job Center. "Old people need help with medical bills. There's too many people under-insured right now – especially people like myself right now who don't have insurance."

Changing Medicare has ...............

Now, Ryan's fix for Medicare, as well as Medicaid, has gotten more personal for hometown friends and neighbors who may be thinking as much about their own retirement or medical expenses as about the size of the federal deficit. Under Ryan's plan, the government would no longer cover seniors' health expenses as Medicare has since the 1960s. Instead, it would provide a certain amount of money to health insurers, with the exact coverage not locked in.

His plan is dubbed the "Path to Prosperity." In Janesville, there's some anxiety.

Howard Gage, a 74-year-old Medicare recipient who owns a three-person video-production company, said he has voted for Ryan in all seven races, still supports the congressman and likes him as a person. But, he added, it's hard to accept that fixing the budget should mean that his family wouldn't receive the same Medicare benefits that he relies on.

"It bothers me that my kids or grandchildren might be affected by whatever has to be done" to curb spending, he said..............
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:27 PM
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1. It scares me
Now is his plan part of this current budget deal or is that seperate?
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:31 PM
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2. I think it is part of the next budget. But Repug governors are
already hitting the state medicare plans--like in WI--the Badgercare program.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:31 PM
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3. Who has explained an entirely different way to fix the budget
without doing it all on the backs of Middle Class?

Oh I forgot it is verbotten to speak of the Liberal Approach.
Yes, I am being sarcastic.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:33 PM
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4. "Some" anxiety? Those people are even dumber than I thought.
"It bothers me that my kids or grandchildren might be affected..." I mean, what a total moron. Your kids and grandchildren, you dipshit, are going to live terrible lives because of YOUR vote. What an ignorant old fool.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 05:06 PM
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5. Right-and look at this trusting soul.......



..........Greg Tschudy, who was laid off from his job as an assembly worker 18 months ago, said he was confident that Ryan was committed to doing the right thing. Ryan has said his plan will save Medicare and Medicaid by making them solvent for future generations.

"Everybody's worried about the future, and there are no easy answers," said Tschudy, 31, as he scoured employment listings at a job center. "Ryan's job is to help people take care of their financial needs, and I'm just kind of watching to see how this develops.":puke:
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:01 PM
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10. Stupid is as stupid does.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 05:31 PM
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6. The town is run and controlled by the local media.
The Janesville Gazette always leaned Republican. The paper has been owned by the family for nearly 125 years.
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Robbie88 Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 11:45 AM
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12. Exactly. The Bliss Communications media monopoly that exists in Janesville is a huge part of the
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 11:45 AM by Robbie88
problem. Their other "paper", the Janesville Messenger, is even worse, as it frequently contains hateful right-wing diatribes that make people like Beck and Limbaugh look relatively tame.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 05:33 PM
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7. They need a very qualified candidate to run against him.
A candidate that can clearly explain the stupidity of Ryan.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 05:53 PM
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8. Will they still vote Republican? One 90 woman I know is mad too. Her solution: REFUSE TO VOTE n/t
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:00 PM
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9. As well it should.
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MacNfries Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 11:35 AM
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11. Ryan's "Plan To Prosperity" regarding his tax cuts for the wealthy
Not sure if anyone happen to read Tina Dupuy's recent editorial "No Shame In Being Wrong" in which she referred to Paul Ryan's recent references to the Heritage Center for Data Analysis projects, saying that "the Path To Prosperity will help create nearly 1 million new private sector jobs next year, bringing unemployment down to just 4% by 2015, and that economic growth with $1.5 trillion in real GDP over the decade, resulting in $1.1 trillion in higher wages, an average $1,000 in additional family income each year."

Tina Dupuy pointed out that the Heritage Foundation loved the Bush Tax Cuts just as much ... releasing a study in April, 2001 saying "The Heritage Foundation Center for Data Analysis conducted a dynamic simulation of the proposals in President Bush's tax relief plan showing that his plan would significantly increase economic growth & family income while substantially reducing federal debt."

Coincidently, Dupuy pointed out that the national debt grew $5 trillion, instead.

Does the country really wish to trust Paul Ryan's sources of strategy?

"Trickle down" ... when will it quit running yellow?
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 01:32 PM
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13. Curb Spending
"It bothers me that my kids or grandchildren might be affected by whatever has to be done" to curb spending, he said..............

What an ass. I bet he still votes for Ryan. Where were these "curb huggers" throughout Bush's term? Oh that's right Bush is white and he knows better than Obama after all. If the worst does happen, I hope this asshole sees the destruction he voted for.
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Ihavethechoice Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 02:52 PM
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14. A fool's promise
What human that takes care of his/her family gives away their
children future, that right NONE. What adult give away their
future.
Your right again NONE. If we fought for all the societal
needs, who f....* is this creep to tell us/dictate to us how
he will take from us what we paid into, why would you wait to
see WHAT? Think for a minute, we all made a promise to our
wifes/spouses/parents/children that all children in this land
will have a better life than our own. Do we break this promise
or do we keep it. this half ass piece of shit and this bs plan
is what is bs. Wake the f-up, Medicaid,medicare, and SS is a
contract not to fall back into the worst conditions of the
human condition, we are our brothers keeper, all our children
come first, a big beat down come to the entity will hurt all
our children. If you the Re pugs don't have the stone to keep
our promise, get your punk ass out the way. WE deliver no more
fork tongue bs.
Stand and man up or stfu.

Peace and Solidarity
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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 04:00 PM
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15. Share your thoughts w/ Ryan on his "propaganda" tour thru WI
From an "ACTION" Diary at DailyKos, a schedule of Ryan's "listening" sessions around Wisconsin
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/19/968288/-ACTION:-Attend-Paul-Ryans-Wisconsin-Listening-Sessions-Today-and-Next-Week

Tuesday, April 19
MILTON: 9:00-10:00am, The Gathering Place (Upstairs Dining Room), 715 Campus Street
ELKHORN: 10:45-11:45am, Matheson Memorial Library, 101 North Wisconsin Street
DELAVAN: 1:00-2:00pm, City Hall, 123 South 2nd Street
CLINTON: 2:30-3:30pm, Village Hall, 301 Cross Street
JANESVILLE: 4:00-5:15pm, City Hall, Council Chambers, Room #417, 18 North Jackson Street

Tuesday, April 26
LAKE GENEVA: 9:30-10:30am, City Hall, 626 Geneva Street
TWIN LAKES: 11:00-12:00pm, Village Hall, 108 East Main Street
PADDOCK LAKE: 1:30-2:30pm, Village Hall, 6969 236th Avenue
KENOSHA: 3:00-4:15pm, Civil War Museum, Freedom Hall, 5400 1st Avenue

Thursday, April 28
WATERFORD: 9:45-10:45am, Village Hall, 123 North River Street
FRANKLIN: 11:15-12:15pm, Franklin Police Department, 9455 West Loomis Road
OAK CREEK: 1:30-2:30pm, Oak Creek Police Department, 301 West Ryan Road
GREENFIELD: 3:00-4:15pm, City Hall, 7325 West Forest Home Avenue

Friday, April 29
BURLINGTON: 10:30-11:30am, Veterans Terrace (Liberty Hall), 589 Milwaukee Avenue
UNION GROVE: 1:00-2:00pm, Community State Bank, 1500 Main Street
STURTEVANT: 2:15-3:15pm, Village Hall, 2801 89th Street
RACINE: 3:45-5:00pm, Gateway Technical College (Racine Building, Room #116), 901 Pershing Drive *Attendees should use parking lot D

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