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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:26 AM Original message |
Chris Hedges: Why the United States Is Destroying Its Education System |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. The USA is a very sick country. The people better.... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
19. That is what happens when the world adopts a system like capitalism - |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. amen! |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yep! but it is what it i! |
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goobergoober01 (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. arf!!! no gimmee another cookie!!!! |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
67. Not Capitalism, but Fascism |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:16 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. We home schooled |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. A global epidemic of narcissism. nt |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. “It is better to be at odds with the whole world than, being one, to be at odds with myself,” |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. I will always be true to my principles! To bad many others are just followers.. |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. that's a great paragraph |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. How to think vs what to think |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
49. We only need to ask ourselves |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. +1,000! Excellent post! |
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Lefta Dissenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. just what I said a few minutes ago on a thread about PBS |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. Sadly, you are correct. |
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Marblehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. Capitalism is rotten |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Capitalism in crisis destroys everything of value and creates political poison. Look at the 1930s. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
6. Chris Hedges pretty well nails the problem. |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R'd |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. We have always been taught to the test. |
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disillusioned73 (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Well, when teachers are saying things like this... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. We have always had tests, we have not always taught to the test. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
44. there have always been tests, but those tests |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Re-writing history - why am I not surprised? |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. I was not |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
70. Not in my hometown! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
9. Why is the establishment, |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
28. He is also a fan of Arne Duncan and Michelle Rhee |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
10. And it is so easy to rig test scores to show what is wanted rather than what is |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Sort of like how the entire football team gets straight A's? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
11. K&R....He nails it.. There's dangerous stuff being done all over the country |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
13. Making the US worker competitive with cheap foreign labor. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. But Everyone Else Is Getting Better Education Now |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. I couldn't disagree more |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Technology of this magnitude is a product of infrastructure |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:22 AM Response to Reply #38 |
73. They still have that. They don't need most folks for that. |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. I used to put down Social Sciences. |
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Gravel Democrat (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
15. ^^^ "They teach children to obey. And that is the point." |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
16. The PTB: |
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subterranean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
18. This sounds a lot like what George Carlin said about education. |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
74. George Carlin ahead of his time.. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
24. These instructors obey. They teach children to obey. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Schools have always been about teaching kids to obey. They train people to be docile little workers |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Contrary to their stated purpose. |
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elmerdem (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
30. Player Piano anyone? nt |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Love that book |
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BobbyBoring (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I think all Vonnegut is required reading today! |
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xocet (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. FYI: Plato's Gorgias 482-483 |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
33. K&R |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
35. as usual Chris you're spot on...next they require students |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
36. Exactly right. Serfs and cannon fodder. |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
39. Sounds like |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
45. Marking to read later |
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cayanne (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
46. NCLB did work |
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drokhole (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. Outstanding! If I may add two great complimentary pieces to this article... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
50. A Democracy needs an educated public. An authoritarian state abhors and educated public. nm |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Exactly. {n/t} |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
52. Hedges has it exactly right |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
54. The Ruling Class wants us poor, dumb, and too afraid to stand up. nt |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
55. Frigging page won't load for me. |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Same here, won't load. |
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Shallah Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Google cache link & links to mirror sites |
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Monarda (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
57. Aim of education |
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Monarda (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. For more, see |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
60. K & R - I love Chris Hedges even though he's usually grim and depressing. |
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AgainsttheCrown (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 03:44 AM Response to Reply #60 |
69. He is... |
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maxpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
61. Been saying it for years |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
62. and it is sadly a bipartisan effort, at least for K-12. The 2012 election will be closer than |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
63. This neocon dreamworld would never happen without Obama. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
64. the teacher's quote in the excerpt nailed it and if Obama had any conscience, he'd replace |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
66. Workers, not thinkers. Thus the hatred for "teachers." |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
68. Thanks to those who have been working in a dedicated manner |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
72. Kick for truth! |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. +1 nt |
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