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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:19 PM
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'Uncontacted' Amazon tribe found in Brazil
** Amazing.


Authorities unveil aerial photos of tribe in remote region that has reportedly never had contact with outside world.

Last Modified: 23 Jun 2011 05:04

Government researchers in Brazil say they have found one of the world's last uncontacted tribes in a remote corner of the Amazon rainforest.
Aerial pictures revealed by the Brazilian government's agency of indigenous affairs (Funai) showed four large thatched huts fully surrounded by various crops in the Vale do Javari region.

Aloysio Guapindaia, a Funai director, also said they would work to keep the tribe isolated and safe. The tribe is thought to belong to the Pano linguistic group that straddles the border between Brazil, Peru and Bolivia.

Gabriel Elizondo reports from Sao Paulo in Brazil.

http://english.aljazeera.net/video/americas/2011/06/20116234014231943.html
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:22 PM
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1. Leave them alone!
(not a chance)
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:38 PM
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4. Why? I've never understood that.
Yes, there's value to cultural research in these cases, and remote observation can tell us interesting things. But I always wonder, why the hell do we think we have the right to just leave them there? Don't they get any choice in how they live? We're going to automatically assume that they want to stay there, with no medicine, questionable living conditions, unreliable food supplies, subject to whatever the jungle throws at them, dying from minor injuries and childbirth the way it used to be hundreds of years ago?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:04 PM
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:29 PM
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7. Ah yes, the "imperialism and patriarchy" defense.
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 02:30 PM by TheWraith
Because apparently all cultures are equally valid, even if it means that people die before they're 40, babies starve to death, and receiving a small cut can be a death sentence.

Apparently, their culture is SO valid that even just offering them the choice of being able to live not constantly in fear of their own lives would be "imperialism and patriarchy." :eyes:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:33 PM
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9. Once you go in and start the cycle... they have no choices...
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:01 PM
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13. Wherer do you g et your information from? Did you just make that stuff up?
A cut might mena death to you or I in the jungle, but not to an Indian.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:35 PM
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10. The logging companies are a threat to them, with massive
logging on the Peru side of the border..according to the OP.

I don't know how contact would begin if at all, the researches for now say they will not do so in order to protect
the people there from getting a disease they likely have no immunity from.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:04 PM
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14. There are people who ahve worked with contacting uncontected tribes for years.
It is a very slow process, takes years. trading things, then learning their language, etc. the end result is never good for the Indians. it is only done if it HAS to be. I.E. you only contact a tribe if a road is going to be built and contact is absolutely inevitable.

Eventually the tribal leader gets paraded all over the world by Sting and the likes to raise money for some NGO.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:00 PM
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12. I lied there for 20 years and know a lot of people who work with tribes.
The minute they have contact with civilization, the first thing that happens is that the common cold can kill them all. Alcoholism is next. They become very poor people in the middle of the city living in the streets. Leave them the hell alone! they have their own languages, cultures, and are doing just fine. Contact with us is brings nothing good for them. nothing at all. only hunger, because they stop planting and start buying, poverty, alcoholism, often death. yes money is interesting when you have never seen it before. but being self sufficient is much much better.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:16 PM
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16. You can't be serious.
Every uncontacted tribe that makes contact loses their identity and happiness almost immediately.

They may not live as long due to lacking modern technology, but they are almost certainly a much happier group of people than anyone on this board ever knew.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:26 PM
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2. Could be another hoax
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:59 PM
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11. It looks like the exact same group as the hoax was n/t
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:30 PM
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3. Did they contact them to make sure?
:D
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:30 PM
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8. No, they did not contact them, the researchers say they would be
placing the population there in danger of contracting diseases their bodies
are not immune to.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:04 PM
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15. True. the common cold kills indians in Brasil.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:22 PM
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6. Do they know about Jesus?
LOL! Minds just waiting to be washed.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 04:31 PM
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17. Are they already addictied to Cigarettes, Fast Food and HFCS?
Been about an hour or so...
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:15 PM
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18. "Helicopters!!"
"Quick! everybody get undressed... Hide those I-pads! Get rid of that ball cap! Where'd I put my blowgun?!?"
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:31 PM
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19. Goldman Sachs has an emergency loan team on the way
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 09:32 PM by jtuck004
Because for Goldman it is an emergency to have someone that isn't indebted to them already...
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 12:44 AM
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20.  Hope there is no oil
on their land.
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