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RedStateDem Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 04:21 PM
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Inquiry will back intelligence that Iraq sought uranium
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1087373567507&p=1012571727159

By Mark Huband in London
Financial Times;

"A UK government inquiry into the intelligence used to justify the war in Iraq is expected to conclude that Britain's spies were correct to say that Saddam Hussein's regime sought to buy uranium from Niger."

--

I'm glad this is coming out so far in advance of the election. The last thing we need is for people to think Bush wasn't lying.

RedStateDem
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 04:28 PM
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1. Quick! Time to use pre-emptive strike
on all nations who seek uranium! </sarcasm>
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RedStateDem Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 04:43 PM
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4. Well, out of fairness to the UN...
...the point of the whole accusation was not that Iraq had acquired uranium, but that it had acquired uranium *in defiance of paragraph 12 of UN resolution 687*, shown here. Maybe the whole reason for the invasion was concocted, but surely we're not saying any nation can just ignore a UN resolution can we? Irag disobeyed the UN:

Iraq shall unconditionally agree not to acquire or develop nuclear weapons or nuclear-weapons-usable material or any subsystems or components or any research, development, support or manufacturing facilities related to the above; to submit to the Secretary-General and the Director-General of the International Atomic Energy Agency within fifteen days of the adoption of the present resolution a declaration of the locations, amounts, and types of all items specified above; to place all of its nuclear-weapons-usable materials under the exclusive control, for custody and removal, of the International Atomic Energy Agency, with the assistance and cooperation of the Special Commission as provided for in the plan of the Secretary-General discussed in paragraph 9 (b) above; to accept, in accordance with the arrangements provided for in paragraph 13 below, urgent on-site inspection and the destruction, removal or rendering harmless as appropriate of all items specified above; and to accept the plan discussed in paragraph 13 below for the future ongoing monitoring and verification of its compliance with these undertakings

RedStateDem
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 04:31 PM
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2. Wake up. There were NO WMD and NO
Al Qaeda links. It is so tiresome dealing with members of The Church of Bush
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 04:32 PM
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3. This story is bullshit, this thread is bullshit, and...
...the suggestion that Bush isn't lying is bullshit.
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RedStateDem Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 04:51 PM
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5. Isn't it interesting though...
Last year, ABC News ran the following story:

Evolving untruths:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/US/uranium030714_timeline.html
"In January 2003, the president used his State of the Union speech to argue for war on Iraq. He said: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Those allegations has turned out to be false, and now the president is facing one of his biggest political challenges since the war on terror began."


Now every major news outlet is carrying the story that Iraq was indeeed trying to procure uranium from Niger.

Is ABC News the only news outlet that has this right?

RedStateDem
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 05:12 PM
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6. Just like they lied about and spouted hard-ons for the war,
complete with nifty logos and music and regularly scheduled shows.

Not that any of these news outlets would have ever been caught in a lie, right?

The Niger uranium lie has been debunked so many times it's tiresome now.

So if bunkerboy says it's true, then end of story, right?

Please, do a little research on the subject.

Blair's government making another lying claim to justify their war crimes. I am sooooo shocked.

You guys are sooo transparent.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 05:34 PM
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7. Every major news outlet, "dem"
You Mean Faux and Rush Limbaugh?

Show another link to back up that obviously fabricated assertion. What is it with you people and fabrication?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 05:41 PM
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8. Oooh, lookie here, "Dem" (sorry I can't say that without laughing)
a BBC report which mentions nothing of the sort.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3879243.stm

Jeepers Creepers, where'd you unearth those Nazi Stormtroopers?
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:48 PM
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10. This is so fucking stupid !!!!!

Iraq has PLENTY of Uranium domestically. They have ZERO need to seek it from overseas sources.

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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:56 PM
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11. This is cover for Joseph Wilson ...

They tried to trap Joseph Wilson but he was too smart for that. Now that they've outed his wife in retaliation, they're trying to make it look like HE IS THE LIAR!!!!

Isn't it amazing that the same people who like about the Nigerian Yellowcake are the SAME people who are now telling us that Iraq was indeed trying to obtain Uranium from Iraq.

I think Baghdad Bob found a new job. He works for the Bush cabal now.

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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:07 AM
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12. Did the Bush Administration have it right?
While Saddam's attempt to aquire "...significant quantities of uranium from Africa." , was certainly part of the casus belli for going to war with Iraq, it is only one of a myriad of reasons that were used, several of which have been proven false.

While I wouldn't want to dampen the euphoria and giddiness these newest reports have seemingly brought to you, in the rush to claim that Bush might somehow be vindicated by any new revelations about Iraq seeking uranium from Africa, you may recall that the 16 words in his SOTU speech referring to African uranium were based on what were undeniably, forged documents.

That history, as the White House was forced to confirm in July 2003, cannot be revised.



"Knowing all that we know now, the reference to Iraq's attempt to acquire uranium from Africa should not have been included in the State of the Union speech."

- senior Bush administration official in a statement authorized by the White House.

July 7, 2003


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A23777-2003Jul7¬Found=true





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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 07:15 PM
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9. A thousand incarnations of the Big Lie
No matter how ofter proven to be fraud, it just keeps coming back, again and again and again. The giant wurlitzer grinds on and on for the terminally stupid.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 10:32 AM
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13. If the uranium story was true, why the forged documents? And why ...

did it take so long to find supporting "evidence."?

It just makes more sense to assume #10Downing has organized some face-saving gymnastics.
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