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drakonyx Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:17 AM
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Without Hope as His Consort, Obama's Fate May Be Sealed
President Obama's approval rating fell a dramatic 8 percentage points in about two months, sliding from 50% at the beginning of June to 42% now, a Gallup poll has found. One need look no further than the latest economic news for the reasons. Incomes are virtually flat, and consumer spending - which typically drives a recovery (what recovery?) is down.

Meanwhile, Obama lacks the biggest weapon that helped get him elected in the first place: Hope.

http://www.theprovocation.net/2011/08/is-obamas-fate-sealed.html
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:20 AM
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1. Which is what comes from doing the polar opposite
of what the American people wanted of him. Good thing for Obama he is unconcerned with our low opinion.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:54 AM
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8. Not just what was wanted but...
what would actually work best for the economy.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:13 PM
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16. + 1. n/t
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 08:31 PM
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21. And the opposite of what he promised
Unless he meant change for the worse.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:35 AM
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2. In all these *doomed* Obama scenarios...
few bring up the *doomed* scenario of what the alternative would mean. While we grow disappointed with the man at varying levels let's not lose sight of how hideous the alternatives would be. And in recent months, since the delusional *permanent mandate* (barf/choke) of the last election...the true dangers of that destructive and souless alternative have been extremely evident even to those who chose to live with their head in a shell.

Anyone with half a brain realizes that the actions and inactions of an Obama/Liberal hating Republican party have screwed this country royally and repeatedly. We didn't get to this low level without the obsessive *help* of Republicans. It will not be forgotten by millions and millions...including those millions who never post one single message on any message board or website.

Besides...Hope Floats.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:42 AM
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3. The only difference
between a Dem that does not serve to advance and protect my very pedestrian needs and interests and a Puke that does likewise is one of degree.

There is no reason for me to support either one.

A vote for a bad candidate ought not be confused with a vote against a worse candidate.

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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:48 AM
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5. As always, that is your choice..
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:06 AM
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10. Actually there are other choices
besides voting for a bad candidate or a worse candidate.

Not voting at all being one of them. And that is exactly what happens when people realize that they are screwed regardless of which candidate wins.

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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 02:47 PM
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15. Let's hear it again:
"There's Not A Dime's Worth Of Difference Between...."
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:43 AM
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4. Shit floats too
Hope has been foundering for years, no one should express surprise that it is now sunk.

And this "... but but but, the alternative is so much worse!!11!!" argument blows, no offense directed at anyone.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:51 AM
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6. I prefer to swim with Hope, not shit.
and when the alternative IS worse, I will always choose to go with what is better.
To do nothing or constantly undermine any hope is what blows the most.

Peace,
Lilly
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:53 AM
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7. Peace back at ya
Enjoy what remains of your "better alternative" until it sours on you, as I suspect it already has.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:06 AM
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11. You can assume all that you want :)
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:32 AM
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13. That I will ;0)
It's an easy assumption to make.
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drakonyx Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 04:39 PM
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17. If the alternative weren't so frightening ...
I might agree with you. But I shudder to think what would happen to our civil liberties with Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry or Sarah Palin as president.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:01 AM
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9. That seems to be the president's campaign slogan
"Obama 2012 - It Could Be Worse"

Good luck with that
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 11:18 AM
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12. Chemo therapy sucks, but it removes the cancer.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:39 PM
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18. The problem is we get Republican policy either way.
By constantly giving in to the crazy, there's not much difference in policy outcome between Obama giving in and a Republican driving the policy.

That slight difference is crucial, but you have to be tuned in all the time to politics to know the difference is there. And the average voter isn't tuned in. They just know the economy sucks and Obama's in charge while it sucks.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 09:10 AM
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23. Sadly, for your argument
the aggregate decision of those millions isn't based on rational processes. We're genetically pre-disposed to look for strong leadership, especially in time of trouble. The President's credibility as a strong leader is taking a beating. Each successive wave of "negotiation" with the Republicans has left him looking weaker. The country needs leadership. If they think he's not up to it the people will look elsewhere.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 02:02 PM
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14. Nothing's changed and he's pissed on our hope so damn many times I don't want it back
President Obama's net worth is over $10 million. He's not "one of us" any more. He's part of the top 1% that he made speeches against... until he made millions. Now he "grudgingly" goes along with ever idiotic idea the right wing can come up with.

He's either a DINO or a weak fool. I want neither as my President.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:56 PM
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19. Perhaps
But we really won't know until the public sees his opponent. Until then it is speculation.
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 07:22 PM
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20. He hsn't stood up for the people who stood up for him.
He now stands very much alone.

I suspect that as the election nears those Dims who are up for reelection will be distancing themselves from his policies. Or his lack of policies.

I am not sure what stats he is looking at, but cutting SS and Medicare for the Baby Boomers, considering how many of us there are, and we have always been politically active since the 1960's, plus the lose of his base is not very likely to be replaced with independents and moderates, many of whom have no real political interests or loyalties.

What ever promises and grad speeches he may make in the future, we all know that he is a major league liar.
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 07:44 AM
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22. O deserves to be primaried by a real Democrat
But alas, there aren't too many of those left.

I'll never say a word in Obama's defense again. He lost me on the debt debacle. He's worse than just a lying pol, he actively deceives.
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