This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things, Affordable Care Act Edition - The American Prospect

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BY PAUL WALDMAN | POSTED 09/23/2011 AT 09:58 AM


Last night’s Republican debate was interesting for many reasons, but the thing that made me angriest was this, from Herman Cain:

CAIN: The reason I said that I would be dead under Obamacare is because my cancer was detected in March of 2006. From March 2006 all the way to the end of 2006, for that number of months, I was able to get the necessary CAT scan tests, go to the necessary doctors, get a second opinion, get chemotherapy, go—get surgery, recuperate from surgery, get more chemotherapy in a span of nine months. If we had been under Obamacare and a bureaucrat was trying to tell me when I could get that CAT scan that would have delayed my treatment. My surgeons and doctors have told me that because I was able get the treatment as fast as I could, based upon my timetable and not the government’s timetable that’s what saved my life, because I only had a 30 percent chance of survival. And now I’m here five years cancer free, because I could do it on my timetable and not a bureaucrat’s timetable.

You will not be surprised to learn that the crowd whooped and hollered its approval. I have no doubt that the typical Republican voter actually believes that when the Affordable Care Act is implemented, every time one of the nation’s nearly one million practicing physicians wants to perform a procedure or prescribe a medicine, they’ll have to literally place a call to Washington and get permission from some stingy bureaucrat. Forget about not understanding the Affordable Care Act; these people don’t understand what “insurance” is and how it works.

Why do they believe that? Because people like Herman Cain keep telling them so. I don’t know whether Cain is an ignoramus or a liar, but it has to be at least one, maybe both. He stood on a stage, looked into the camera, and told people that under the ACA, doctors will have to get permission from government bureaucrats for every procedure, and treatment of illnesses will proceed not according to the recommendations of medical professionals but on “the government’s timetable.” You might say, “Well, nobody would be dumb enough to actually believe that,” but you’d be so, so, wrong. It’s not just Cain. If you’re a conservative, you hear this kind of thing from politicians you like and trust, you hear it when you turn on Fox News and watch TV personalities you like and trust, and you hear it from radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh that you like and trust. You’ve heard it hundreds and hundreds of times. Were someone to tell you that it’s not just false but spectacularly, insanely false, you wouldn’t listen for a second.


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[bhikkhu]

1. I suspect its really because he's a millionaire

I haven't been to a doctor in ten years, because I can't afford it. Fortunately I'm very healthy, and I do my best to stay that way, but going to the doctor for routine checkups or screenings is not in the picture for me, or for a lots of people here.

If I had what Cain had, apparently I'd just be dead, because I'm not a millionaire.

[BlueMTexpat]

2. I suspect that he's BOTH an ignoramus AND a liar.

They are not mutually exclusive. Today's Republican Presidential candidates are living proof.

[Demeter]

3. Cain is describing how the plan is to set up Obamacare

and both parties are in on it, because they are wholly owned subsidiaries of the Insurance/Hospitals conglomerates.

The point of Obamacare is NOT to keep people healthy. The point is to cut costs. The only way to cut costs is to cut services. You want healthy people, you send them to the doctor and pay the bills. You don't send them to for-profit insurance companies.

He's telling the plain, unvarnished truth. And nobody who worships at the altar of Obama can see that.

[Moosepoop]

5. You actually believe that there will be

government personnel deciding on approval/disapproval for every medical procedure for each patient?
That's right up there with Cain (though I'm not sure he actually believes everything he spouts).

[Crunchy Frog]

4. He's a liar.

It's well crafted piece of propaganda that he's doing his part to perpetuate.

[Zoeisright]

6. Cain is one of the dumbest pieces of shit to ever draw breath.

INSURANCE COMPANIES are the death panels. Their BEAN COUNTERS constantly question EVERYTHING doctors do. What he describes happens every day. Because of those asshole insurance companies.

Fucking liar.