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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:14 PM Original message |
When Democrats Lean Right, They Lose: A History Lesson |
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Gyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. The DLC views it differently |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. The DLC cites Clinton as evidence for everything |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Not only Clinton. |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. If you think that Roosevelt and Johnson were centrists you simply don't |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. FDR and LBJ ran as centrists, regardless of their agendas. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. FDR got reelected three times |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 08:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. So let Kerry run center and get elected, |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I think they care more about corporate America than winning |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. How was Dean "killed"? |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thank you. This article is very true. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. Partial Truth - FDR ran as budget balancer for first term - LBJ was |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. some things are different this time |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. This is such bull. |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Modale and McGovern didn't lose so much because they were liberal -- |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I disagree |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Just how far to the right to we have to go to win -- and if we do, |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. A) Running to the base is a trick that never works, for either party. |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I disagree -- the Repukes have consistently nursed their base. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. It's a fallacy to think that the people you talk to are representative |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I am not that naive -- the people who are mostly like myself are |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. When I heard Jim Hightower speak last night, he said that |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 08:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. And here again, the outright fantasy |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Liberals at the time were bitterly disappointed in Kennedy |
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Sugarbleus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
9. WooooooooooooHoooooooooooooooo LOVE IT! |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
21. All I know is that if we have to run to the right-sliding center to win... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. The view from Pluto |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. And that has what to do with the price of tea in China??? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 08:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Perspective. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Where did I say I expected "seven impossible things before breakfast"? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Points. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Counterpoints... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 10:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Well, you started the dance, not I. |
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BaysideLiberal (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
29. I agree |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-04 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
33. I'd look to more recent history |
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