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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 02:08 PM
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The Saddam-ist / Islamist Resistance Will Win
The Saddam-ist / Islamist Resistance Will Win

......... by Scott Ritter July 24, 2004
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The battle for Iraq's sovereign future is a battle for the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. As things stand, it appears that victory will go to the side most in tune with the reality of the Iraqi society of today: the leaders of the anti-U.S. resistance.

Iyad Allawi's government was recently installed by the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) to counter a Baathist nationalism that ceased to exist nearly a decade ago.

In the aftermath of the first Gulf War, Saddam Hussein's regime shifted toward an amalgam of Islamic fundamentalism, tribalism and nationalism that more accurately reflected the political reality of Iraq.

Thanks to his meticulous planning and foresight, Saddam's lieutenants are now running the Iraqi resistance, including the Islamist groups.

In August 1995, Saddam's son-in-law, Hussein Kamal, defected to Jordan. Fourteen months into the U.S. occupation of Iraq, Kamal's testimony that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had been destroyed in the summer of 1991 has taken on new relevance, given the fact that to date no WMD have been found.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=5926
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 02:12 PM
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1. "Allawi's government is doomed to fail"
What does Scott Ritter know anyway? </sarcasm>
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 02:59 PM
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2. "It is no longer a question of winning but rather of mitigating defeat'
"The calculus is quite simple: the sooner we bring our forces home, the weaker this movement will be. And, of course, the obverse is true: the longer we stay, the stronger and more enduring this byproduct of Bush's elective war on Iraq will be."
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:20 AM
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4. Ominous last words:
<snip>

There is no elegant solution to our Iraqi debacle. It is no longer a question of winning but rather of mitigating defeat.

<snip>

We have a mindset in Washington that is so obtuse and obstructionist that they refuse to understand that just because we are the United State, the people of the planet are NOT just going to bow down in submission to the 'imperial will' of this country. Even worse, we've become the nation considered the biggest threat on earth today.

Funny, when I was growing up it was the USSR. Well we are now the USSR. Illegal invasions, lies to the people of this country (about everthing, in the case of this administration), complete disregard for human rights, suppression of free speech and other constitutional guarantees, corrupt legislators and representatives, corruption that reaches into the White House (bush*, Cheney), the installation as pResident of (at best) a C-average business major with a no accomplishments whatsoever, only failures at everything he ever tried (his record as governor of Texas is nothing to point out as a success).

It's mindboggling that we have come to this point. But maybe it was inevitable. We let down our guard and expected the victories of the 70s and 80s to protect us, we forgot that there are people out there who's only adenda was to trash all the progress we made during those times. So now we are back where we started from. Stuck in an endless war that we can't possible win. But this administration is so insanely out of touch with reality that even as it is losing two wars, it starts to lay the groundwork for the next one. Frigging amazing.
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AngryLizard Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-04 05:48 PM
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3. Of course it 's going to fail
All you have to do is look at history -- the native population always wins out in the end. Puppet governments always fall, because EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S A PUPPET GOVERNMENT. All we have to do is look at the British Empire. Or what's left of it. Which is practically nothing. The only war colonialism ever wins is a cultural one.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 09:22 PM
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5. Yes it is and onexhibition knows it.
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