MSNBC: Internet video used to foment insurgency

[mountebank]

By Lisa Myers & the NBC investigative unit
Updated: 7:48 p.m. ET Nov. 17, 2004

The carnage is posted on Internet sites four or five times a week — video shot by Iraqi insurgents of attacks on Americans and allies, along with the accompanying bodies and body parts.

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"If an American or British is killed in an operation, there is no sympathy at all; it creates pride, not sympathy," says Salah.

Why?

Experts say one reason is al-Jazeera. The television network bombards Arabs with images of dead or maimed Iraqi civilians and repeatedly aired controversial and graphic footage of an American Marine shooting a wounded Iraqi. Yet, the network did not show the fatal shooting purported to be of Iraqi aid worker Margaret Hassan at the hand of insurgents.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6514745/

Oh, of course, it's Al-Jazeera's fault that Iraqis take pride in killing an invading army! Just like it would be FOX News' fault if Americans took umbrage at invading forces bombing their cities, killing their loved ones, occupying their houses, and desecrating their holy sites. Classic "reporting" from Lisa Myers. "Experts say..." Read: "I want you to believe...."

[RoyGBiv]

1. Of course ...

Shoot the messenger.

[Egalitariat]

2. Are we occupying their houses?

Please post that link. I can swarm some of my repug coworkers with that.

That is a clear violation of the 3rd Amendment of the Constitution.

Actually, come to think of itl, the 3rd Amendment is one that I have never debated before. So, freeps, let's get it on.

[Rumba]

3. The third amendment

protects US citizens, it doesn't apply in a combat zone in another country.

[Egalitariat]

4. Those rights we reserve for ourselves as citizens...

should also be projected onto the citizens of other states.

This was the one area in which I disagreed with John Kerry on. In one of the debates he spoke of our country "affording certain rights to its citizens", when in fact we don't allow the government that choice. We actually reserved those rights for ourselves in the Constition. We don't have to ask the government for their permission. The government has to ask us.

Along those same lines, the citizens of other nation states and of the world in general, should not have to ask for the rights guaranteed in our Bill of Rights, for these are rights that all people posess independent of any government.

[Rumba]

6. I agree with you, but here's my take on III

"No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."

I think the key word here is "quartered". I doubt that this amendment would be interpreted to mean that if, say, Elbonians captured Des Moines, and US troops had to engage in house-to-house fighting to remove them, the troops couldn't enter houses or, in the midst of a combat zone, spend the night in one of those houses.

It would, however, prohibit using private homes in the suburbs that weren't in an active combat zone as garrisons or barracks.

[mountebank]

5. Can't find the photos right now, but....

You can see them in the slide shows on MSNBC and NY Times that usually accompany their articles. Soldiers (with boots on) sleeping in beds of otherwise normal-looking middle class homes in Fallujah. Soldiers walking on bed mats with boots in homes.... You can imagine what Iraqis, even moderate ones, feel when they see these images.

EDIT: title for type-o

[The Zanti Regent]

7. Lisa Myers is your typical high price presstitute

Bob Somerby has the dirt on this whore. Every word that comes out of her mouth is a lie, even when she says "and" and "but"!

http://www.dailyhowler.com

[Kurovski]

8. Presstitute!

That's a good one. Whore is best, though.