Miami Herald hand recount of 3 Florida counties indicates signficant Kerry

[clem_c_rock]

WHAT'S YOUR ALL'S TAKE ON THIS?

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=9984&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported

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In reference to the following story from the Associated Press:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002102809_florida28.html

The Miami Herald did a hand recount of 3 Florida counties. 3 of the 29 counties which have a majority of voters registered as Democrats but voted overwhelmingly for Bush.

Here are the tallies for Union County:

Bush original: 3396  Bush hand count: 3393 (-3)
Kerry original: 1251  Kerry hand count: 1272 (+21)
Net change: Kerry +24

Here are the tallies for Lafayette County:

Bush original: 2460  Bush hand count: 2452 (-8)
Kerry original: 845  Kerry hand count: 848 (+3)
Net change: Kerry 11

It's a bit more complicated for the third county they looked at, Suwannee County, because they only report the totals for a hand count of "almost 60%" of the ballots. Here is the result of their 60% hand count:

Bush 60% hand count: 6140
Kerry 60% hand count: 2984

Which gives us the following tally for Suwannee County:

Bush original: 11153  Extrapolation of Bush 100% hand count: 10549
Kerry original: 4522  Extrapolation of Kerry 100% hand count: 5126
Net change: Kerry +1208

In the original count, 71.2% of the votes cast for Bush or Kerry (n=15675) went to Bush. In the hand count, this drops to 67.3%. That is a significant drop. Let's translate that into numbers. If you take the percentages from the hand count and extrapolate, here's what you get:

Bush = 15675 x .673 = 10549 (loss of 604)
Kerry = 15675 x .327 = 5126 (gain of 604)
Net change: Kerry +1208

A switch of 1208 votes in a county with less than 16K votes cast is obviously huge. Now maybe there's a very large percentage of Bush votes in that remaining 40% that they didn't count, but we can't know that because they didn't count them. Which begs the question...why did they stop counting in Suwannee County when their tabulation of 60% of the ballots deviated so much from the original total? And without actually counting those remaining ballots, how can they possibly report that nothing is amiss when the data they have so far suggests a possible problem?

What I see is a possible gain of 1243 votes for Kerry from three small counties in which only 23627 ballots were cast. That represents about 0.3% of the ballots cast for Bush and Kerry statewide. If Kerry gained votes at the same rate statewide, he picks up nearly 400,000 votes and wins Florida.

Thanks Miami Herald, you just revealed to us in your hand counts that there's a possibility that Kerry won Florida.

[acmavm]

1. But, as been said by myself and many others before the election,

Florida would pull another rabbit out of the hat and somehow bush* would end up taking the state. Not legally, not really, but by fraud.

[Raster]

2. jeb bush is gov. of florida for one reason: to make sure the florida...

...elections go the way that $hrubco wants. This has been a setup that has been YEARS in the making. In a free, unbiased, fair election in florida, bush does not win. That's the smelly 3000 lb. elephant sitting in the middle of the room.

I've said it before. Losing florida or ohio was not in the cards for these bastards. They have too much riding on this election. Just the thought that their deals and misdeeds could be exposed and investigated gives these bastards shivers at night. Can anyone say
"war crimes"? I thought you could.

[clem_c_rock]

3. and he's a member of the PNAC

Hmmm connections start to fly

[kcass1954]

4. ...and now that he's delivered 2 elections

Oops - make that "stolen" elections... I worry that he's going to be rewarded with Bill Nelson's Senate seat.

[adolfo]

6. IT IS NOT OVER YET

The fight is not over yet. Many are doing their part to uncover the fraud involved. I'm doing mine by recounting under the Florida Sunshine Law.

If anyone here is in Florida, I urge you to form or join a group to start auditing your precinct or county now!

[The Backlash Cometh]

7. Welcome adolfo.

I know what you're doing is hard work. And I thank you for your efforts.

Here's something you might find interesting. There are two posts I made that might be useful.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1410810&mesg_id=1411257&page=

[newyawker99]

12. Hi adolfo!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[tsuki]

5. Jeb had the state police, FDLE, out threatening elderly blacks with jail

time if they voted.

[drostie]

8. Um, well...

I thought it was ridiculously clear that Kerry had won, excepting certain voter fraud that could not be undone?

I mean, if the hand recounts are also favoring him, then by all means let the votes be counted! But hopefully we can get the voting machines to at least print ATM-like receipts for voters to look over.

[Poppyseedman]

9. Playing with the numbers in one county isn't going to

get you anywhere, especially since all the numbers are not being looked at.

I live in Florida, voted in Florida: The story is simple. The voting process is pretty locked down. It would be difficult to commit massive voter fraud on this scale.

I don't want to bust your bubble, but the fact is the Repugs gained one million more votes this 2004 then in 2000. Our party gained about 650,000 more votes.

They simply registered more voters then we did. I know that is hard to believe, but the numbers don't lie. Were they legit registrations, That's the big question nobody is asking?

I was completely shocked when I saw they had registered more voters then we did.

The panhandle in Florida is the worst place to look for a Kerry victory.

[distantearlywarning]

10. In my city, quite a few of those "new" Republican registrations

were Democratic students who signed what they thought was a medical marijuana petition and had their registrations changed to Republican and their polling places changed based on the information they provided. Bet you didn't hear about that one on Fox News!

How many times did this happen in other places? Just a thought...

[AP]

11. 60% count of that one county doesn't really tell you much.

Was it a random sample? Or are they going precinct by precinct?

If it's the latter, it's very possible that they haven't yet gotten to the more heavily populated Bush-voting neighborhoods.

The Berkeley study on those counties said they were very much in line with expectations. They traditionally go with the Republican candidate for president, and they have for the last 8 or 10 elections.

I suspect the paper stopped counting because that county was so much bigger than the other two and they felt that after 60% it looked like it was actually close enough that it wasn't worth counting any more.

[adolfo]

13. Anyone can do a hand recount

Anyone or group with a little time can conduct an independent recount in Florida. I think someone should complete the Miami Herald's job in Suwannee county.

www.recountflorida.com