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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:28 AM
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RW media whore Wash Post Editorial supports Soc Sec destruction
Why does the WO repeat GOP econ "analysis", and not have a truth telling actuary or two commenting on this. It is as if the time value of money, the disruption of capital markets, the destruction of the economy, the destruction of the safety net as investment risk is passed to individuals so the government guarantees less - is over their head. These idiots who say that the present value cost of the "fix" equals the Present value of the "problem", not only do not prove that, they can not prove that, and the WASHPO buys it as it also ignores the social fabric change for which there is no mandate.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38315-2004Dec5.html?sub=AR

The Cost of Reform
Monday, December 6, 2004; Page A20


THE DEBATE over Social Security has begun with an argument that highlights the difference between idealized visions of reform and the imperfect real world. The argument concerns the transition costs associated with partial privatization. The administration and its allies say that these costs should not be counted; critics regard this as accounting trickery worthy of Enron. In theory, the administration has the better argument. In the real world, however, the critics may be right.

Social Security privatization would allow current workers to divert part of the payroll tax into personal retirement accounts. That diversion would leave the government short of money, so, assuming no tax increase or spending cut would be enacted to offset the shortfall, the government would have to borrow more -- issuing perhaps $2 trillion in extra bonds over the next generation or so. But, in a soundly designed privatization, this transition cost would generate an equal and opposing transition benefit. The workers who divert part of their payroll tax into personal accounts would accept an offsetting cut in future Social Security payments from the government, thus reducing the nation's debt to future recipients. In sum, privatization would merely substitute new promises to pay bondholders for old promises to pay retirees. In a properly designed reform, the net transition cost should be zero.

Likewise, the effect of privatization on interest rates and the dollar's value ought also to be zero. The prospect of an extra $2 trillion in bond issuance sounds scary. Won't extra government borrowing drive up interest rates? What if foreigners, who buy a large share of Treasury securities, balk at buying even more? These concerns miss the fact that the increased government bond issuance would be countered by the new pool of capital accumulating in private retirement accounts. Government borrowing would increase, but private saving would increase equally. Net national saving would not be altered, so interest rates and the U.S. dependence on foreign savers would not change either.

Those are the theoretical arguments. But there are reasons to believe that in the real world privatization would have real costs. It's easier to wriggle out of promises to retirees -- by raising the retirement age, for example -- than it is to renege on bond payments, so Social Security privatization might make the national debt harder to manage, even if it isn't larger. It's also possible that bond markets might be spooked by a flood of new issues, even though they shouldn't be; markets can be at least temporarily irrational, so privatization could hit the economy with a period of high interest rates or dollar weakness.

But the biggest reason to fear that reform would be expensive is that in order to sell it politically privatizers might well be tempted to sweeten it. This could happen in several ways. Reformers might promise to bail out private-account holders who suffer big investment losses, or they might end up bailing them out some time in the future. That would be a real cost. Reformers might allow a large diversion of payroll taxes into personal accounts while imposing only a small cut in future Social Security benefits. Again, the gap would generate a real cost. The private accounts in the most popular reform model advanced by President Bush's Social Security commission include a subsidy to account holders that measured in today's dollars would come to more than $1 trillion, according to Peter Orszag of the Brookings Institution and Peter Diamond of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Reformers have to make the case that these costs, as well as the risks that privatization might pose to a system that protects vulnerable members of society, are justified by the benefits that private accounts could bring.


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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:30 AM
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1. Damn Post
I walk by the Post building every day on my way to the Metro, and it's totally depressing. They are an embarassment.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:31 AM
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2. The Whorington Post was never really a "liberal" paper.
It had a right wing history but the moderate/liberal Graham family bought it. It seems that Katherine's son is a right wing shill.

I read the NY Times, Boston, Boston Globe, and the LA Times, but even then I am not impressed, though they are much better than the Washington Post.

:shrug:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:43 AM
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3. "An imperfect real world"
The part they missed is that the world gets more imperfect the more Republicans get their way.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:05 PM
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4. It doesn't even make any sense
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 12:06 PM by Inland
"In sum, privatization would merely substitute new promises to pay bondholders for old promises to pay retirees. In a properly designed reform, the net transition cost should be zero. "

Nonsense, for two reasons. One, there isn't money for the OLD promises to pay retirees. If there was, then the political push for reform based on the supposed insolvency of the system wouldn't be there. All the reform promises is a different way for us to fall short. That is why to transit to a new system--assuming someone wants it to work--costs a few trillion.

Second, the cost of revamping an entire system would require finding the present value of an actuarial life income from SS. Care to guess whether the government is going to have a calculation that favors it or you? How many billions of mere number crunching is that going to take? (Of course, you have to ask, what happens if you live a long time? Well, you would have to purchase an insurance to take the place of the insurance that SS provides. And yet the post says we have to make the system protect the vulnerable. Idiots.)

I'll say it again. The cures are worse than the disease. SS will pay 100% of current benefits for another thirty years, and then 75% of current benefits, worst case scenario. I'll take my chances on something that is a matter of addition and subtraction than the fine print the USG will use to balance the books on my back, again.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:07 PM
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5. I agree :-)
:-)
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