Zappa on Crossfire 1986--sheer profundity

[SHRED]

He was so profound in his understanding of where our society was headed, even back then.

He said we were headed toward a Fascist Theocracy. Well...just look at our one party-commercialized government-under "christianity".
Frank was a mental giant among us.

http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2658805

[ClintonTyree]

1. I really miss Frank..............

I bought my first Zappa album when I was 20. "We're Only in it for the Money". That was back in 1970.
Frank was the first one to turn me on to C-SPAN. He watched all the time and said anyone who wasn't watching was a damn fool. He was right about that as well. If we didn't keep an eye on our government it would turn out..........well, just as it has. Not enough people pay attention, so it makes it easy for criminals like BushCo. to transform the government into what we have now. A Fascist Theocracy.
He was a true visionary.

[Skink]

2. Why does Zappa hate America

[ClintonTyree]

5. Do you mean "Sheik Yerbouti"..............

strange omen of things to come for our country? Frank was way before his time. We could sure use his wisdom now.

[cornfedyank]

10. because america may be America no more...n/t

[indigobusiness]

16. In some divergent parallel reality, Zappa and Lennon both are alive...

Zappa is president of the US and Lennon is president of the UN.

[SHRED]

18. OMG!

That sounds awesome to me!
I want to go there right now!!

[LiberalinNC]

3. Zappa blew those morons away!

He was great! I wanted to Punch that Washington Times guy right between the eyes...he reminded me of O'Reilly after Al Franken spoke about his book "Liars". "SHUT UP...you've had your 30 minutes to talk". ;)

[SHRED]

4. John Lofton

http://tinyurl.com/6x59a

He now is a key advocate of the Fascist Theocracy.

[LiberalinNC]

7. He's a scumbag!

[Tace]

6. He Could Play Guitar Too!

I saw him a few times live, and it was a transcendental experience. How about those solos in Joe's Garage? Yowza!

[Tace]

8. I Just Viewed The Video Feed -- Wow, Frank Was Great

He didn't have an opportunity to say all that much, but he did good.

Since I know a bit about the man, his music, and his message, I got to see three mental midgets badger a towering genius.

What buttheads. They wouldn't listen. To quote Don McLean from his song Vincent: "They don't listen. They're not listening, still. Perhaps they never will."

On Edit: My feed, dial-up through RealPlayer, was really trippy, heh, heh.

[bunkerbuster1]

9. Most radical thing FZ said: "I'm a conservative."

My favorite Moonie remark: "Now, your band is called 'The Mothers of the Invention.'"

Anyway, add me to the "Frankie, we hardly knew ye" list.

[bunkerbuster1]

11. And the quaintest thing they discussed

when FZ was grilled on that very controversial "Hot for Teacher" video.

Hey, Bobby Novak--tell us again how that is somehow more disgusting than, oh, betraying your country?

[cornfedyank]

12. Susie Cream Cheese... a long time ago

do not live in the past.. i too wish the world had settled in a comfortable place.. but it did not. We are toe jamb. Try to come up, like mud between the toes.

[90-percent]

13. Zappa

Would have made a wonderful President. He woulda run if he didn't get sick.

He was gonna make a TV show called NITE SCHOOL and have Daniel Shorr do real news. Actually inform people of whats really going on.

He pitched it to Fox TV!!!!

A lost national treasure....thanks for the link....I'll use it for inspiration, as I've done with Zappa for 75% of my whole life!

-85%

[orpupilofnature57]

14. DITTO, frank Zappa had more brains in his pinky,than shrub does

in his whole administration.( Roxy and Elsewhere ) THE MOST ENERTAINING LIVE double disc of all time.

[SHRED]

17. Roxy

Now that was a fine album!!
And what a line up!!

Frank Zappa: lead guitar, vocals
George Duke: keyboards, synthesizer, vocals
Tom Fowler: bass
Ruth Underwood: percussion
Jeff Simmons: rhythm guitar, vocals
Don Preston: synthesizer
Bruce Fowler: trombone, dancing (?)
Walt Fowler: trumpet
Napoleon Murphy Brock: tenor sax, flute, lead vocals
Ralph Humphrey: drums
Chester Thompson: drums


http://home.tiscali.be/ir008421/www/roxy.htm

[htuttle]

15. Zappa was a prophet

From 1977:

The illusion of freedom in America will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre.
--Frank Zappa

[mogster]

19. Miss Frank too.

During the Bobby Brown hit period I was a DJ at school, and played it several times every break.

To think that the innocent kids danced to such daring language.. :evilgrin:

[Strawman]

20. That was great thanks

Many times I've wished that we still had Frank around to comment on what is going on in this country. And on several occasions I've watched * on TV and wondered what would Frank have said about this a-hole?

[rndmprsn]

21. i heart zappa!

[Lefty48197]

22. He was a prophet too.

Well, I take that back. You didn't have to be Nostradamus to realize that Reagan had put the country on the track towards facism. You can't really blame Bush Jr. for being a facist. It's now a requirement for Republican Party membership.

[eSTIV]

23. and the music??

I never saw that clip. It was good to hear Frank again. And his comment about fascist theocracy really hits home here.

It has been eighteen years since that show aired. I am hoping that Mr Lofton is currently institutionalized and well-medicated. Guys like him are very dangerous.

I am not sure I agree with Mr. Zappa's absolutism regarding the First Amendment. Not because I believe in censorship but because I believe that parents will not step up and assume responsibility for the rearing of their children.

The years that have passed since this issue was debated indeed have seen a general increase in emotional instability and occurences of violence both physical and otherwise amongst our young.

Is music a contributing factor?

We "oldies" often quote Bob Dylan and John Lennon and Frank Zappa and many others and when we were young, their opinions became largely our own and those opinions helped reshape the world.

Were they right? Were we right? Who knows?

But it is undeniable that music and media influenced us then, and continues to do so to this day, age irrespective.

Has the so-called objectionable material shaped our children?

What do you think?


E-STIV
New Yorker
Embarrassed American

i sure miss RRMB!

[minkyboodle]

24. sigh

I miss you frank...