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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:47 AM
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Gingrich: As defense secretary, Rumsfeld is a success
(from one loser to another...)

The recent calls for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to step down provide a good opportunity to step back and review his record from the last four years.

Shortly after Mr. Rumsfeld began what would be his second tour of duty as secretary of Defense, he made it clear that he would do what it takes to begin transforming the military and its supporting bureaucracies into a force capable of meeting the threats of the 21st century. In his 2001 Senate confirmation hearing, Mr. Rumsfeld testified, "The old deterrence of the Cold War era is imperfect for dissuading the threats of the 21st century and for maintaining stability our new security environment."

In the face of enormous internal opposition, Mr. Rumsfeld, who under President Gerald Ford directed a military that stood ready to face the might of the Warsaw Pact, began in the summer of 2001 to transform the defense bureaucracy by forcing it to recognize that the Cold War was over. He then began implementing the changes necessary to reflect that reality.

Most notably, he undertook an extraordinarily complicated set of negotiations with our allies to move forces from obsolete and expensive Cold War positions in Europe and East Asia to much more useful and less expensive positions from where they can be more effective in defending America.


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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:51 AM
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1. who cares what that the Grinch thinks
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:52 AM
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2. "defending America"? (Bullshit!)
The DoD is becoming nothing but a hired gun for global corporate predation.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:54 AM
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3. as a human being, rumsfeld is a failure eom
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:54 AM
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4. Gingrich as an honorable man...not likely.
nt
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:57 AM
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5. Who cares what that scumbag thinks.
:puke:
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:57 AM
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6. well if by 'success'
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 11:58 AM by bowens43
he means 'monumental failure' then Gingrich is right. Let's look at his success:

1. He captured Bin Ladern....oh wait a minute.....
2. He 'liberated' the people of Iraq and they now have a safe, thriving democracy.....oh never mind.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:59 AM
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8. He's the first Secretary of Defense/War
to have American military headquarters attacked while he was sitting in it....

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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:07 PM
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9. Damn good point and something very few have pointed out about
our beloved but gruff "Rummy." As for Gingrich nobody cares what he thinks- even repugs don't care what he thinks.
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arkie dem Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:58 AM
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7. Me thinks all that
vulva licking has went to newties head.:)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:10 PM
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10. Ah Newt.
How many nails does it take to nail your worthless carcass down?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:16 PM
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11. Comming from a person who committed 7 Felonies and was allowed to simply
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 12:24 PM by sam sarrha
resign and stay out of the public eye for a few years for Looting the little Black kids collage funds and using the money to mame millions selling meglomanic Video tape sets of himself...

i wouldnt consider that a good refference from a man who should be spending the rest of his life in prison as a butt bitch for stealing the futures of little poor children wh had not other opportunities in life but the one he took to get richer.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:33 PM
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13. Well said.
His "Contract on America" hired a couple of hitmen named Bush and Cheney to take the killshot.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:30 PM
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12. Republican definition of sucees equals our definition of failure.
It truly is a monumental failure of Republican stewardship to assume military might can trump diplomacy. We've shown the world that application of our power has limitations and weakness. The PNAC hallucination will be our downfall in this world. We've become the uninformed, petulant, spoiled bully - a macrocosm of Bush, if you will. Compare that with the friendlier, smarter, more humanly compassionate Clinton that resounded well in the world. The peoples of this world loved BC....... he furthered US interests simply by engaging as an honest partner in promoting the overall world's welfare. Not one soldier's life lost in 8 years under Clinton.

Iraq has proven the folly of letting a flock of oily chickenhawks conduct foreign policy.....sadly the "boardroom" mentality of running this country has replaced statesmanship and the ability to persuade/lead in the marketplace of ideas.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 01:12 PM
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14. All in favor of sending Newt as US Consul to Irkutsk? Aye!
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 01:15 PM by JHB
Newt is one of the most loathesome creatures to have infected our politics over the last 50 years, and probably over all 228.

No single person has coarsened and befouled the political process as much as he has, yet he keeps hovering around the centers of power, like a fly waiting for the opportunity to spread more maggots.

As for what he has to say about Rummy? Who cares!

The man never said anything that wouldn't advance himself (or his "movement" and thus himself with it) before, why would he be any different now?

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:20 PM
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15. The entire Administration is but one hugongeous success in every
endeavor.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:47 AM
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16. dude, what was he smoking??
I want to avoid it. Seriously, since Newt can't distinguish his head from his arse, of course he would think Rummy is doing well. Just shows how blind this whole bunch is...
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Bark Bark Bark Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 09:09 AM
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17. Gotta Ask...
...The same question about Newt that I ask about Sean and Bill O and Weiner and Rush:

What the hell qualifies any of them to speak about anything? ...I mean, anything aside from building a career as a morality lecturer with no moral or ethics whatsoever?

Two things occur to me reading Newt's fartings:

(1) Sorry. Sending a man who looks like Death--complete with black clothing--into the midst of US troops in Iraq? Not gonna work QUITE as well as the whole mission-accomplished sock-in-the-crotch gag did. Too much time and too many dead bodies have come to pass.

(2) Newt pops out that old nut that no terrorists attacks have taken place on US soil since 9/11; therefore, Rummy (or whichever Bush Administration turd is being polished at a given moment) is doing a swell job. There are only two reasons why someone would say something like this:

(a) They're a f**king idiot, and they're begging for trouble.
(b) They know something they really, really, really want to share with the rest of us--but can't because they'll have an "accident."

...and of course, lest we forget: if these asses were doing such a grand job, then 9/11 wouldn't have occurred in the first place.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:57 PM
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18. Rummy is a "catastrophic success"
That's what Newt must have meant. :eyes:
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 04:19 AM
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19. Gingrich is smoking crack
The one thing we can say for certain about Donald Rumsfeld: he has screwed up every major decision put before him: counterterrorism and 9-11; Saddam's WMD; cheering Iraqis with flowers; troop strength requirements and Phase IV plans; troop training, armament, and supplies; disbanding the Iraqi army; counter-insurgency tactics. Rumsfeld is so bad that we may have to redefine failure according to the new standard he has set. There is no excusing such appalling incompetence. And all of it caused by blind adherence to an ideology completely out of touch with the reality on the ground.
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