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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 11:45 AM
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Neocons can't escape responsibility for their Iraq miscalculations
Regarding their criticisms of Rummy. I especially like the last line, portraying the neocons as the Gollum-like creatures they are...

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/10521410.htm?1c

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They were the loudest proponents of an attack on Iraq from the beginning. It was the neo-conservatives who wanted to unleash the dogs of war. It was they who championed Ahmad Chalabi and his Iraq National Congress and saw that their bogus defector tales of Saddam's nuclear weapons program and his stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons gained attention and traction.

They believed Chalabi and the INC's predictions that American troops would be welcomed with showers of rose petals and there would be no need for an American occupation. Ergo, no need for anyone to actually plan to secure the country in the wake of victory or lay the groundwork for rebuilding a nation whose water, power and sewer services were falling apart before we bombed and shelled them.

When Rumsfeld goes, so too should every neo-conservative who squirmed his way into a Pentagon sinecure. They must also bear responsibility for a war that so far has cost nearly $200 billion and the lives of more than 1,300 American troops and has damaged America's standing in the world.

They cannot be allowed to load all the blame on Rumsfeld and scoot away to lick their wounds and dream again their large dreams of conquest and empire and pre-emptive strikes.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:12 PM
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1. Wanna bet?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:15 PM
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2. good point
"shouldn't" would have been a better word than "can't."
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freesqueeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:17 PM
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5. No Kidding ...
They have so far.

Just who is going to hold them to task for their deadly deceptions?

The media? PSHEEEEW!

The Democrats? Where have they gone?

The voters? We just saw what happened there. 1 million jobs down the crapper, an ever changing rationale for war, 1000+ wasted lives and they say 'GIMME MORE!'
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:11 PM
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3. They have so far! Maybe in 20 years we can have trials but it took
30 years for Pinochet.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 08:17 PM
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4. It should be mandated that every American, especially any that voted
for *, be required to sit and look at the picture of EACH AND EVERY SOLDIER KILLED IN IRAQ. After that little exercise, someone should explain to all these idiots the current and projected costs of the Iraq fiasco. Someone should explain to these idiots that the reason their child will not be going to college is because the money was gambled away in Iraq. And let's not mince words, Iraq was a gamble. A huge gamble. The neocons gambled that they, not the military leadership, knew the best way to fight a war. The neocons gambled that they, not hundreds of diplomats worldwide, knew more about the political situation in Iraq and the middle east. The neocons were horribly wrong. Their hubris did not allow them to impartially appraise the situation. My friends, $200 billion and 1300 American lives is only the beginning. It will be years before the full costs of Iraq surface. The catastrophe that is Iraq will haunt the US for many, many years to come.

Every one of the neocon traitors should be tried for treason and summarily executed. All of them, rumsfeld included.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:34 PM
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6. It's interesting how "they: used the Neocons ..
..the way the GOP uses the Religous Right.

Iraq War - WHO is actually responsible?

At the top level: They used Terror, Osama, "WMDs=Saddam - he's gotta go"
- float the lie that Saddam = 9/11 - that rallies the Sheeple - that gives you your Stated justification.

dig deeper

The Neocons - drunken imperialists - like the religious right - pure idealogy with little substance - being used as pawn by a deeper level of players.

dig still deeper

Rummy along w Chenney etc ("Rumsfeld himself was never a neo-conservative. He just found them useful" )

dig some more..

And you get to the actual power cabal Rummy and Chenney etc really serve. The true decision makers who are the ones who really make all the $$ from the War etal. - who are they?
fill in the blanks: many are names we may never know.
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