Appaling comment I heard about AIDS today..

[bluestateguy]

I was walking through the aisles at the grocery store today and there was a college aged boy and girl talking, perhaps louder than they should have been, about each other's sexcapades. The boy was enjoying his bragging about how many women he had bedded, and the girl expressed some concern, "you should be careful," she said, "do you wear condoms? You could get AIDS." The boy responded with cocksure arrogance, "Hrmph! No, I don't use condoms. They don't work anyway! And besides, AIDS is a gay man's disease. I ain't no faggot." At that point I became so irritated I just had to get out of that aisle and away from that bonehead. I did not hear the rest of the conversation.

[slackmaster]

1. Good use of "cocksure" and "bonehead"

What a maroon. Too bad anyone that dumb can get admitted to college.

[liberalhistorian]

2. SIGH. We're heading into the third decade of dealing with

AIDS, and people, especially young adults, STILL think it's "just a gay disease?" Good Lord, how depressing!

[stopthegop]

8. it's not a 'gay' disease..

but it is less likely a man with get AIDS via heterosexual intercourse than that a woman will...still an unspeakably stupid thing to believe

[whoYaCallinAlib]

3. What does that say about the women who don't require him to

wear a condom? They are as stupid as he is.

[liberalhistorian]

5. Do you hold men as responsible as women?

Why does it ALWAYS come down to the woman and her responsiblity? MEN have responsiblity too, you know.

[Phoenixtongueof fire]

6. Pointing the finger isn't what it is all about......

Both Men and women have to take responsibility.
They women who don't take precaution is just as guilty of stupidity as the man who does't take any precaution.
Bonehead's girlfriend should have told him that he was an ass and walked off and left him standing there like the fool he was.
When Bonehead's doctor informs him that he has AIDS, then I wonder if he will still think it is a "Fag" disease.

Me thinks he will be one idiot that will get removed from the gene pool. I wonder how many he will take with him.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

13. I could not agree with you more.

Both he and his girlfriends are complete dumbasses if you ask me.

[JackSwift]

7. A man's responsibility can be enforced by a court of law

and should be. But let's face reality: men don't get pregnant, and they behave as if they know that fact. Why don't women? Responsibility is more than just moral responsibility, it is understanding the reality of consequences. If a man doesn't protect himself, the consequences are far less serious to him than if a woman doesn't protect herself from the consequences to her. You can get up on any damn high horse you want to, but a woman who doesn't protect herself will get pregnant. A man will never get pregnant. The universe is not an evenhanded place, and it isn't even evenhanded in its lack of evenhandedness.

[liberalhistorian]

10. Well, I protected myself and I still ended up pregnant,

while the father, whom I was planning to marry, decided he just didn't want to deal with it, threw me out of the house, and left me and my son (who's now twelve) to our own devices until I hauled his ass into court and made him take at least some responsibility. Now he and his fiance (with whom he had a son three years ago) bitch about the incredibly meager support he has to pay (not even $300 a month!!!) So I've paid my dues in that respect, and got a little tired of hearing about how it was all MY responsiblity and MY problem and never his fathers, etc., etc.

[JackSwift]

18. Well then, you've actually lived my point

The risk to him is really quite small. $300 a month. Unless you consider the moral consequences to his soul. But in fact, pregnancy is always a risk of sex, a point the far right is correct on. I just wish they weren't so obnoxious and holier than thou about it and more people might listen.

But my point wasn't to chastise folks in your position, but to point out that you are the one bearing the responsibility and it is a problem as a matter of reality. It isn't fair. I didn't say it was, but when rubber has to hit the road and your son needs shoes and homework help, I would bet dimes for dollars that you step up to the plate and get the job done: that's responsibility and problem solving.

As someone who occasionally represents a family law client, it appears to me to blow and suck chunks. Give your son a hug for me.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

12. To say the "consequences are far less serious to him" . . .

isn't the smartest thing I've heard you say on this board. Death from aids is pretty fucking serious. It is no LESS serious than getting pregnant in my opinion.

[JackSwift]

15. And the risk to a straight man in

America of getting AIDS? While not zero, it is not as high as the hysteria would lead one to think, and the consequence is only to him, and a chance he took. Do remember that death is not just a risk of life, but an absolute certainty. And yes, I did downplay the AIDS risk to a man from heterosexual sex in my haste to point out the pregnancy scenario fallacies. But IIRC, the risk to women from straight sex, while still somewhat low in this country (compared to the continent of Africa (which, George is a continent, not a country)) is much less. Hep C is a much, much higher risk, and also potentially deadly in the millions.

[argyl]

16. The greater chance of heterosexual women getting AIDS than hetero men

is true in the US and most of the developed world. However, this is not the case in Africa and Asia.AIDS passes as easily from man to woman and vice versa as does gonorrhea.I've often wondered why this is but have seen no answers.

Could the less developed world have a more virulent strain of AIDS and will it make its appearance here? As long as we've been dealing with this epidemic it sseems that if this were the case this would have already showed in the more developed world.

Anyone out there have any answers? This has had me puzzled for some time now.

[Phoenixtongueof fire]

20. I think the main issue of this thread is not pregancy........

but sexual transmitted diseases. Both sexes can get the diseases. It not a gender thing. So even if the women take the pill and doesn't require that her partner uses a comdom, she is as likely to get a disease as a man.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

11. You misunderstood. I said she was "AS STUPID" as he is. Not more stupid.

As stupid means I consider her EQUALLY responsible. Your health is YOUR responsibility. Nobody else's. So if you're girl, make sure he wears one. If you're the guy, make sure you wear one. Sorry, if I wasn't clear enough.

[JackSwift]

19. Stupidity rarely has a lot to do with it

we are still people with powerful hormones. Life will find a way.

[Phoenixtongueof fire]

17. Pointing the finger is not what it is about......

Both Men and Women need to take responsibily.
Women who don't take precaution is just as guilty of stupidity and the men who don't take precaution.

When bonehead's doctor informs him that he has AIDS, will he still think it is just a "Fag" disease?

Me thinks he will soon be removed from the gene pool, I wonder how many others he will take with him.


Sorry, this is a repeat, I thought the first message didn't get posted.

[patdem]

4. Should have told his girlfriend....run do not walk away from that

relationship...since he is willing to put his/her life on the line for a false belief!

[drdigi420]

9. You should have called him on it

Instead of going away.

You might have been the one chance this guy had.

We should ALL be more vocal when we see/hear ignorance.

Curing ignorance is EVERYONE's job.

[JAbuchan08]

14. I would have walked right up to them and said

something like: "Well at least we can all rest assured that no 'faggots' will be catching any diseases from you, thank god" and then to the young woman "If you want your friends to live long, healthy and happy lives - I advise you keep them away from Mr. 'soon to have a rotting penis and several child support payments'.

[xchrom]

21. ''soon to have a rotting penis...''

BWAHA HA HA HA HA -- oh that is so damn funyy!