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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:00 PM
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America outsources torture
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 11:06 PM by professor_pot
"On Sept. 26, 2002, U.S. immigration officials seized a Syrian-born Canadian at Kennedy International Airport, because his name had come up on an international watch list for possible terrorists."

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"He was not accused of any crimes, but U.S. agents wanted him questioned further by someone whose methods might be more persuasive than theirs.

So, they put Arar on a private plane and flew him to Washington, D.C. There, a new team, presumably from the CIA, took over and delivered him, by way of Jordan, to Syrian interrogators. This covert operation was legal, our Justice Department later claimed, because Arar is also a citizen of Syria by birth. The fact that he was a Canadian traveling on a Canadian passport, with a wife, two children and job in Canada, and had not lived in Syria for 16 years, was ignored."

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"The Syrians locked Arar in an underground cell the size of a grave: 3 feet wide, 6 feet long, 7 feet high. Then they questioned him, under torture, repeatedly, for 10 months. Finally, when it was obvious that their prisoner had no terrorist ties, they let him go, 40 pounds lighter, with a pronounced limp and chronic nightmares."

entire story at:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/01/04/INGPQ40MET1.DTL

on edit:
hey i thought syria was an card-carrying axis of evil member? and bush has dealings of such kind with the "enemy?" how can he reconcile the two??
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:03 PM
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1. yes but only because all the qualified American torturers have been

sent to Iraq and Afghanistan
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:09 PM
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2. Not to worry
The economy is roaring back to life, they said so. I'll bet they're doing job retraining right now to fix up the shortfall. Buy American.
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WealthAndDemocracy Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:12 PM
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4. "roaring back to life"
except for jobs. The economy is roaring back to life without new jobs.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:43 PM
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8. No - Plenty sent to Latin America as well -eom-
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:09 PM
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3. they won't even give torturers jobs to Americans?
They'll even outsource the illegal jobs!
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:20 PM
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5. Not to worry! We can get a torturer in from India on an H1B visa. That way
....we can collect the taxes on the torture he does here in the USA. It's a Win-Win situation.

Also, many illegal aliens would like to take these torturer jobs, because torturing is a job Americans don't want.
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:30 PM
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6. pick me!
i'm an educated indian who can really cause severe torture with my cover versions of Nirvana :)
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:00 AM
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9. I'm pretty certain that would be against the Geneva Conventions!
:eyes:
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:43 PM
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7. Tell me something I dont know
Why do it yourself when you can get someone else to do it at 1/2 the price and no extra geneva charges.
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