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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 07:15 PM
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The person that can offer an antidote to the hate and partisanship....
will win the election. When the better angels prevail, Americans will come to the conclusion that they would prefer the nation united, that they are tired of the Republican 'partisanship', and they do not really care for the Democratic "hatred". We can call it principles or passion or whatever we desire, but it is the perception that is the reality.

It is that "middle message" that will appeal to the majority of voters that go to the polls in November. And that "middle message" should not be interpreted as a "middle of the road" politician. Write it down. You heard it here first. :) People do not want to be told what they already know. They want to hear about a positive direction for this country. They want a real "uniter". They are looking for a visionary.

They really do not want to hear about how George Bush lied to get us into the war. We are there. What are we going to do about it? Who has the best plan to save American lives and restore the respect of our nation around the world? That is what America desires. That is what America is looking for.

After all the rhetoric and charges, people are looking for answers. They are looking for stability in their lives. They do not want war and color codes. They are looking for positive options.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 07:17 PM
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1. The problem with the GOP is mean spiritedness
has been for a long time.

Good christians can't support the GOP, only the deceived ones can.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 07:21 PM
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2. I agree with you.
The approach of anger, and anti and hatred didn't really win the GOP any long term gains back in the 90's. There was a brief reward in the '94 mid terms but the lesson to be gleaned from that was that it was a short term gain and people quickly tired of it.

I fear we aren't learning from their mistakes.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 07:55 PM
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3. If, and only if, the person offerrinf the antidote is heard.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 08:08 PM
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4. Also, the candidate that offers hope.
I truly think this is why Kennedy was such a popular President. He offered us hope for the future instead of trying to scare the shit out of us all the time with the bad Russians, Nukes etc., etc..

Also, Eisenhower beat Stevenson for the simple reason, he promised to end the Korean War, which he did technically, but I think Adlai would have made a greater President. He just didn't make an offer the electorate was interested in at the time, ending an unpopular war.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 08:27 PM
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5. Kentuck...they NEED TO HEAR ABOUT "How GB Got us into Iraq Invasion!"
They need it "Drummed into Their Heads Day and Night...Like some kind of hideous Chinese Water Torture! How else will we explain the difference between: PNAC vs. Containment....Pre-Emptive Strike policy as opposed to "Unilateral Strike/War?

The difference between these two "fundamental differences of philosophy and combining that with the AMERICAN CONSTITUTION..where Presidents were not Kings or Emperors does make me feel that I can't back down and just allow some "sneaky Dem" in "sheep's clothing" to come in and corrupt or co-opt my thoughts on this.

:shrug: But, that's what's important on the "first go round" with our Candidates. The other "stuff" I can "haqgle over" to some extent.

But, the "Invade Iraq because they are crying for "Liberation" argument is the FUNDAMENTAL thing with me......all else springs forth from that basic defiance of who we are as Americans.. :-(.....sorry that's it, for me.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 02:43 AM
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7. KoKo01, I think people need to hear the truth also....
but we need more than just telling the "truth" about George W Bush. After we tell the truth, we must offer positive options and a vision for this country. We must offer rational alternatives. I agree with you that we must continue to tell the truth at every waking moment. But we must do more...
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 09:01 PM
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6. There is no antidote
Edited on Sat Jan-17-04 09:04 PM by TorchesAndPitchforks
There is no anti-venom for the vicious lies and underhandedness of our disloyal opposition. This administration has made it abundantly clear that winning is the only thing. They will work to maintain power at any cost. A principled stand can not endure against this amoral foe.

They have cemented the loyalty of their core groups. They are willing to sacrifice principles in the short term to achieve further victory. They are even willing to sacrifice the security and prosperity of this country. Brace yourself for a mud fest not seen in any of our lifetimes.

However, there is one part of their constituency that is not on board: the sane conservative. They are the decent, honest, patriotic conservatives who still value good government, our country's reputation, fairness, and decency. They already have qualms about the direction the extremists now leading their party are going. They need to know the truth that this administration is even worse than they can already sense through the media filter.

Its not just the war, its how the war was sold. Not just Medicare, but how the bill was passed. We have to point out just how poisonous and partisan their leadership has been and urge them to take back their party so we can have a functioning state again.

Bush is not the president he campaigned to be. I know if I were a Republican I'd be deeply ashamed of my party now. I know some Republicans who do feel this way. By telling the truth, we should see that all sane Republicans feel this way. This is the true swing group in the electorate this time around.

Now is the time for results, not ideology. There are too many dangers lurking just over the horizon, in addition to the problems that are in plain sight. This election needs to be a referendum on how we as Americans want government to behave.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 09:33 AM
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13. Then why are you here? Apparently you didn't read the Rules.
And it doesn't drive the Pubicans?

Remember Chelsea Clinton--vicious hatred of an uninvolved child.

Sheesh.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 03:03 AM
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9. You mean like this?
Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 03:06 AM by rucky
I offer these brief remarks today as a prayer for our country, with love of democracy, as a celebration of our country. With love for our country.With hope for our country. With a belief that the light of freedom cannot be extinguished as long as it is inside of us. With a belief that freedom rings resoundingly in a democracy each time we speak freely. With the understanding that freedom stirs the human heart and fear stills it. With the belief that a free people cannot walk in fear and faith at the same time.

With the understanding that there is a deeper truth expressed in the unity of the United States. That implicate in the union of our country is the union of all people. That all people are essentially one. That the world is interconnected not only on the material level of economics, trade, communication, and transportation, but innerconnected through human consciousness, through the human heart, through the heart of the world, through the simply expressed impulse and yearning to be and to breathe free. I offer this prayer for America.
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Let us pray for our children. Our children deserve a world without end. Not a war without end. Our children deserve a world free of the terror of hunger, free of the terror of poor health care, free of the terror of homelessness, free of the terror of ignorance, free of the terror of hopelessness, free of the terror of policies which are committed to a world view which is not appropriate for the survival of a free people, not appropriate for the survival of democratic values, not appropriate for the survival of our nation, and not appropriate for the survival of the world.

Let us pray that we have the courage and the will as a people and as a nation to shore ourselves up, to reclaim from the ruins of September the Eleventh our democratic traditions. Let us declare our love for democracy. Let us declare our intent for peace. Let us work to make nonviolence an organizing principle in our own society. Let us recommit ourselves to the slow and painstaking work of statecraft, which sees peace, not war as being inevitable. Let us work for a world where someday war becomes archaic.

That is the vision which the proposal to create a Department of Peace envisions. Forty-three members of congress are now cosponsoring the legislation. Let us work for a world where nuclear disarmament is an imperative. That is why we must begin by insisting on the commitments of the ABM treaty. That is why we must be steadfast for nonproliferation.

http://www.kucinich.us/speeches/speech1.htm

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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 03:15 AM
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12. A-freaking-men!
And he won't win, b/c of the media and party structure. This is what I view as the basic flaw in the original post.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 03:14 AM
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11. Kucinich's campaign is not based on hate and patisanship..
sadly enough, Democrats aren't an opposition in real terms to the far right that this country looks at today, so Kucinich isn't electable, right? His campaign is based on the right issues.

Sad. Sad. Sad.
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