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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:11 PM
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4 Republican Senators want 911 declassified
Snowe
Shelby
Hagel
Brownback
I think this means if all Dems vote for release it happens
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:18 PM
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1. Yes
That is my understanding also.

This is why I'm torn about Graham leaving the Senate for either the presidency or some cabinet level position. It's really, really good to have a crafty old fox in the henhouse! :evilgrin:
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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:05 PM
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11. Wouldn't you rather have a crafty old fox in the White House? ;)
LOL. :kick:
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:21 PM
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2. And Bush will file a lawsuit .........
and it will get tied up in court for 2 years.......
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:21 PM
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3. i think that others would join in as well
chafee for instance. anyone know of any other possibilities??
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:22 PM
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4. So, when it's declassified, how many days can Bush survive
after that?
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lifelong_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:38 PM
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5. If those four want it declassified...
...it can only mean there's nothing harmful to the administration in there.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:42 PM
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7. Then why was it classified in the first place?
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lifelong_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:48 PM
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10. I don't know...
...but you can bet that if there was anything potentially damaging to the administration in the report, all the Repukes would be circling their wagons to protect Bush*.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:47 PM
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9. For the rest of his term..
...and then possibly for a second depending on whether we can beat him in 04'.

"So, when it's declassified, how many days can Bush survive after that?"

Is this another, "this is gonna bring Bush down" fantasy?

People are getting their expectations up way to high over this...again. If the classified material would really damage Bush's presidency no Republican senators would be for releasing it. Further, if the still classified part of the report would actually end Bush's presidency there would simply be no possible way to keep it secret. Too many Democrats know what's in it, if it were something that would "bring Bush down" the information would have been leaked by some staffer somewhere.

The material is very likely just very embarrassing for the Saudi's and raises questions about why the US government continues to support them knowing full well that the Saudi Kingdom spreads and indirectly supports radical muslim terrorists. I am quite sure the Saudi's probably didn't really want it released but made a big show of acting like they did. They quickly "understood" when Bush said no to releasing the information. Bush is trying to protect Saudi Arabia in the exact same way all US Administrations have been protecting them for years - and it is all about the fear of what might replace the current monarchy. The report is not going to contain Bush-Saudi connections, nor is going to show evidence of LIHOP or MIHOP.

Don't get your hopes up too high as you likely to be sorely dissappointed if the material is actually ever released.

Imajika


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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:40 PM
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6. Wait a minute....
Brownback???
WTF --- up till now he has been playing hard for the * team...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:45 PM
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8. I heard it on CNN
Candy"s show, they had the letter from him and showed just part of it. Said it hadn't been released yet. It was going to all the Senators.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:46 PM
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12. that's a big if
I think this means if all Dems vote for release it happens

in another thread there was a story saying that Feinstein (D-CA) and Rockefeller (D-WV) said that full release would harm national security.

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:48 PM
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13. count those two out and we still have the majority to declassify it
we could probably bring more Republicans over, Chafee of course and maybe McCain, I can't think of too many other Dems who'd be against it except Zell, actually it'd be interesting to see with Ben Nelson with the Republican senator from his state for it.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:49 PM
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14. Maybe that's it
they won't vote for full release but most of it they will
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:00 PM
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15. The full report will come out eventually
Edited on Wed Jul-30-03 09:02 PM by BeFree
Whether the Senate demands it or not this time around, one day the full report will come out.

And when it does folks are gonna say "why was this such a big deal, keeping it a secret?" Then they're gonna say "how many other secrets are being kept from us, and who's doing the keeping? " No one wants to be caught in this. If the WH and the pukes continue trying to keep it a secret there gonna get slimed.

I hope all the Dems quickly get behind Senator Graham. But I ain't holding my breath.
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Sufi Marmot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:08 PM
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16. Whither Susan Collins?
Also Chafee....

Anyone else...?
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