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Sun Feb-01-04 09:41 AM
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Would a Democratic President have 'taken out' Saddam? |
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- A former Gore advisor (Elaine Kamarck) on CSPAN this morning contends that at 'some point we would have gone in and taken out Saddam'. She went on to say that the 'argument' is not about Bush* going into Iraq...but the way he did it. (Yet...in his speeches Gore has stated he would NOT have invaded and occupied Iraq.)
- Ms. Kamarck says that 'Democrats have had a difficult time being heard'. This may be true...but the message that a Democratic president would have 'taken out' Saddam only gives aid and comfort to Bush's* blatantly illegal invasion of Iraq.
- Is it any wonder Democrats are having a difficult time getting out their message when talking heads like Karmarck give credibility to the idea that the United States can wage unprovoked war against any country they wish and replace their leaders?
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Sun Feb-01-04 09:46 AM
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But with the U.N. support and without lying to the people.
All while creating jobs and mending Health Care.
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Sun Feb-01-04 09:49 AM
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3. But...there was NEVER any reason to attack Iraq... |
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...and it's bullshit for anyone to imply such a thing. It's very disconcerting to hear a 'Democrat' like Kamarck suggest that Bush's* invasion was legal...just poorly executed.
- Let's be very clear: Bush* attacked and occupied Iraq after stating they were a THREAT to our security. Everyone knows this is a lie. Yet we STILL have some Democrats playing into this lie so they can 'act' like they're strong on national security.
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Sun Feb-01-04 10:34 AM
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8. Okay, I'll hone my point bit... |
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Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 10:34 AM by BeatleBoot
I'll add: "Assuming he was a direct threat, an imminent threat.'
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Sun Feb-01-04 09:49 AM
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Including those like Sen Kerry who voted in favor of the authorizing resolution. Those who feel that voting in favor of the resolution means that that an individual would have handled the situation exactly as Bush did are mistaken. They are entirely different animals. I don't believe we would be in Iraq today if any of the current Dem contenders were president (including Lieberman) at the time.
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Sun Feb-01-04 09:54 AM
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Democrats value life the shrub's goons see the sheeple as just more product which can be easily replaced.
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Sun Feb-01-04 09:57 AM
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5. But here you have a Democrat... |
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Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 09:58 AM by Q
...on CSPAN saying that a Democratic administration WOULD HAVE taken out Saddam 'at some point'. Her only argument is the way Bush* did it...without a real coalition.
- It's another giant political mistake for Democrats to suggest that the US had ANY right to take out the leader of another country in the absence of a direct threat to our security.
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Sun Feb-01-04 10:16 AM
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"- A former Gore advisor (Elaine Kamarck) on CSPAN this morning contends that at 'some point we would have gone in and taken out Saddam'."
First, she really needs to clarify who WE are and she should not imply that this is the stand of the Democratic Party or any of the particular candidates.
The candidate I support has stated unequivocally that the US went after the wrong guy and that he would have searched for Bin Laden and not gone after Iraq. He called it bait and switch and political and wrong.
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Sun Feb-01-04 10:03 AM
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6. I strongly suspect that some of the people that are involved with.... |
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..."advising" Democratic Party campaigns are actually working for the GOP. Think about that for a moment...how easy would it be to gain credentials/reputation as a Democrat and then give quotes to the media that sabotage those campaigns? Dick Morris comes to mind rather quickly, as does Stehanopolous.
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Sun Feb-01-04 10:35 AM
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9. Elaine Kamarck is DLC...she was a senior fellow at the DLC's 'think tank' |
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the questionably named, Progressive Policy Institute. Searching the DLC's site ndol.org, she has penned issue opinions for them. http://siyaset.bilkent.edu.tr/Harvard/eckbio.htm
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Sun Feb-01-04 10:41 AM
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10. That may explain it... |
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...because the DLC has taken the same basic position as Lieberman on Iraq. That is...taking out Saddam has always been part of 'the plan'.
- Is it any wonder that voters are confused about the differences between the GOPers and Dems when it comes to the 'war' on terrorism?
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