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patmacsf Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 01:55 PM
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Should California change its law to allow Republican on ballot?
This is a somewhat old story, but now that the California legislature which has a Democratic party majority is finally beyond the stranglehold of the minority, perhaps it's time to think about what would be a good use of their time. Democrat, Secretary of Sate Kevin Shelley has volunteered that he would like the legislature to change the law of California moving the filing deadline for party candidates on the 2004 presidential ballot back from September 1 so that the Republican party can have its 9/11, flag-wrapping, democtrat bashing, nominating convention as close to the actual 9/11 aniversary as to actually fool the country that there was nothing the Federal Republican majority could do to prevent it. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/05/15/MN243319.DTL)

Is this really something Democrats need to do? Didn't we learn from Florida that election laws are election laws? Why shouldn't the Republicans be bound by the law? Since when did "W" become 'above-the-law'?

Am I just a cranky democrat?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 01:56 PM
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1. no
the state should not change its law

of course they will but they shouldn't
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pbeal Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 01:59 PM
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2. let the republicans play by the rules for once
the republicans are all for states rights when it benifits them, so let them deal with it when it doesnt.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:20 PM
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3. I would think the Republicans would be against changing the rules.....
.....in the middle of the game! :evilgrin:
They seemed so adamant about that point in the past! :)
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:24 PM
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4. This is politics. Nothing would be served by changing the law.
So I say no; leave it alone.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:41 PM
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5. Hell no! The filing deadline is set. If the GOP doesn't respect it, ...
screw them. Especially after Florida2000, stick it to them!
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LEFTofLEFT Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:48 PM
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6. Not just no, but
HELL NO

I hope none of the ststes change for them.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:52 PM
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8. No
And party activists must lobby them not to bend the rules.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:56 PM
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11. Should California allow me on the ballot for Governor?
No. I'm only 21 and I live in Georgia. If don't obey the law by getting older and moving to California, then I shouldn't get special priveleges.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:58 PM
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12. I don't have enough info to form a conclusion
If Art Torres, a very calculated Dem party leader is supporting Shelly's position, there must be a good reason. The reason isn't stated in the article. I will look for the reasoning and respond when I have enough info.
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patmacsf Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:21 PM
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13. You have too much faith ...
Do you think Art Torres also calculated the recall crisis, the budget crisis, the energy crisis ....

When I wrote Sec. Shelley last May, his belated response for getting the law changed to help the Republicans was that Democrats needed to take the high-road and show signs of our willingness to work with Republicans. Which, unfortunately, is politico-speak for "I'm to spineless to stand up to the Republicans unless I see a whole hell of a lot more support coming my way real quick."

Where is the courage in the California Democratic party?!?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:37 PM
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14. The budget crisis tied into the energy crisis by increasing the cost of
money to the state (as regards borrowing and paying on downgraded bonds) It would have been impossible to calculate. Voter are blaming Davis for Enron when in fact our credit was downgraded while The FERC dragged their feet, low balled our refund and enforced fraudulent contracts.

If Sheely is only doing it to take the high road, I guess I am not terribly impressed since they underestimate their DEAL BREAKING enemy but I still am not disgusted with California Dems and think they stand head and shoulders above the national party.

Mc Auliffe is one to talk.
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