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Tue Feb-10-04 10:02 PM
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Fellow African Americans, What Say You About Larry Elder? |
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I Have Just Started Listening To Him, Hoping For A Refreshing View Of The Current Political Situation In This Country. Sadly, I've Come Away With A Very Bad Taste In My Mouth. He's The Same As Rush, Hannity And The Rest.... What Say You?
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:05 PM
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1. Being jewish is difficult |
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with Perle, Wolfowitz, Preager, Medved, and Horowitz fuckheads.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:11 PM
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2. Larry Elder is confused. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 10:12 PM by philosophie_en_rose
I have silly freeper friends that adore his books. His basic message:
1) Black racism is worse than white racism. 2) Black people should just get over racist institutions. 3) Unwed parents ruin Black culture.
He's very simplistic. In sum, "if I could do it, why can't you?"
:puke:
p.s. Trade you Larry Elder for Elaine Chao. :P
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HornBuckler
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:15 PM
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3. I Can't Stand This Man.... |
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I Commend Him For His "Success" But He's So Far Out There He Doesn't Even Know What The Hell He's Talking About. It Shames Me That He Claims To Represent The "Thinking Black Man"
Uber-Douche!
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:15 PM
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4. Aaron McGruder doesn't like him much |
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he lambasted him late in 2003 during the "Condi Personal Ad" arc.
I'm very white, BTW, and I don't like Elder ;-)
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:16 PM
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5. Well, I Am Not African American |
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And I Happen To Think That Larry Elder Is A Discredit To Our Race, I Am Really Replying Because I Want To Know Why The Hell You'Re Doing That.
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HornBuckler
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:18 PM
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Typing Like This? I've Said It Before That It All Started With The C64 I Was So Stoked By having BOTH Upper And Lower Case Letters That I Started Typing Like This.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:24 PM
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i Should Have Guessed From Your Sig.
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HornBuckler
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:29 PM
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Loved That Damn Machine - Still Have 2 Of 'Em
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:34 PM
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21. i Only Have An Emulator... |
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Which i'Ve Only Used To Play sSI Gold Box Games.
i'Ve Seen Your Nerdism And Raised You Half Way To The Next Level.
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HornBuckler
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:36 PM
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I Play Pool Of Radiance Everynow And Then - But Really Enjoy Bard's Tale 3 On The Ol' 64
Thanks For Taking The Time To Talk Old School 64 W/Me
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:51 PM
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33. Ha! I Remember Your First Post About This |
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I Remember Having A TRS-80 So I Understand The Feeling!
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HornBuckler
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:54 PM
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35. TRS80! Wow! That's Some History |
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I Was Captivated... Coming From A Vic20 With Only Upper-Case To A 64 With !GASP! Both Upper And Lower, I Was Hooked - Sorry To All Of You That May Find This Style Of Typing Bothersome. I Can't Help It!
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:19 PM
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He seems to be a libertarian. He's critized Rush, Bush et al. He's more tolerable than people like Hannity.
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HornBuckler
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:21 PM
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I Think I Dislike Him More Than Rush And Hannity - Atleast They Have A Position And Stick To It. Larry Is A Wishy Washy Kinda Guy. Libertarian One Minute Republican The Next (I Wish I had The Link) And He (Like Rush, Hannity) Never Lets The Opposition Get A Word In.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:26 PM
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While I don't agree with many of his positions, I am able to stomach his opinions far more than Hannity. Elder has beliefs he definitely sticks to and tends to criticize politicians, both democrat and repubs. Hannity, however, continually espouses the party line. At least Elder has been criticizing the way the current administration has been spending money. Hannity would never criticize *Bush.
Mind you, I don't listen to a lot of talk radio. I live in Canada (although I'm originally from Chicago)and listen occasionally via the Internet. I'm just basing my opinion on things I've heard recently.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:31 PM
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You're Right About The Hannity Thing - He's My Least Favorite Of All Talk Radio Hosts - But Larry Just Fries My Ass
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Wed Feb-11-04 01:27 AM
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41. Here in L.A., I've been aware of him for a long time. |
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He struck me as one of those folks who thinks, mostly, like a republi-CON but somehow thinks his listeners object to republi-CONJOBS so he calls himself a libertarian to distance himself. Says every so often that he's pro-choice and against the drug war, which is acceptable to me, but everything else is just so Rush-like. Maybe Rush-lite. Tiresome. They're all just tiresome. They're all the same. All wall-to-wall conservatives. Truly, in this case, nothing here, folks. Move along. He's just another one in a nauseatingly continuing series.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:23 PM
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9. I'm black..and I say... |
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he's an idiot. Loudmouthed, wanna be conservative throwback from the 80's 90's... a product of that horrible period when EVERYBODY was going to Wharton Business School at Penn, thinkin' they were emulating Donald Trump, and that was cool. What a joke.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:24 PM
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Mr Elder,Mr Sowell,The Williams,all are well educated buffons,some of us will do anything for money,they have no standing in the so called black community,they envy Jesse Jackson and other noted black liberals but there is something lacking in their character,so they turn to the one thing they do well the uncle tom role,I refer to them as AKUT'S. AKUT=ass kissing uncle toms.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:27 PM
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13. I Didn't Want To Say "Uncle Tom" |
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You Did It For Me. I Am Careful Of Throwing That Term Around (I've Been Called That More Than Once - Because I Like D&D And Thought The Jerk Was Hilarious Among Other Reasons) But Never For My Politcal Belief... Glad You Brought It Up, Because It's TRUE In The Truest(sp)Sense.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:33 PM
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Uncle tom was a hep and cool dude during slavery,but slavery ended years ago Mr Elder should get himself a new gig.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:33 PM
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Really? Wow. That's truly bizarre.
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HornBuckler
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:35 PM
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I've Been Called Uncle Tom So Many Times You Wouldn't Believe It - However, For Loving D&D And Being Into SCI-FI And Such I Got The Most "Uncle Tom" Labeling. Yeah, It's Funny So It Sticks With Me.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:52 PM
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I also love science fiction, hockey, horseback riding, quiche, and I was a good student. I grew up in a Black community in Boston and never ever once was called a Uncle Tom.
Where are you hanging out?
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:36 PM
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23. Must be tough being black and a D&D player. |
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All I got called was "satan worshipper." But I bet he still made it look cool.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:41 PM
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27. That's The Funniest Thing I've Read On DU! |
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:44 PM
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30. White Wolf is by far the most progressive RPG publisher. |
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What other company prominently features women heroes who don't wear chainmail bikinis or people of color who aren't shamans or tribal warriors? What other company puts Noam Chomsky books on its "Recommended Reading" lists? :-)
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:48 PM
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I Never Thought Of It That Way, I Like JRR Tolkien Regardless Of All The Black/White Talk - I Look At It Like Chess. It's Colors Nothing More..
Besides, I Like My Female Paladin To Be Barely Clothed.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:31 PM
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He's also toxic. My advice to you, stay away from him.
Very far away!
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HornBuckler
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:33 PM
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He Just Recently (6 Months Or So) Hit On My Local Affiliate - I Had Never Heard Him Before And To Be Honest, Looked Forward To Hearing Him. Well, Needless To Say - Your Words Are Wisdom.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:42 PM
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28. Race pimp is what he is... |
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How often do you hear conservatives calling Black folks who actually do something to help other Black people race pimps? Consider this though, Elder and his kind (let's not forget Roy and Niger Innis) would be nothing if white conservatives didn't need them to be the 'other' Black.
And they play the role quite well!
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:33 PM
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I'm still white, like the last time I posted, but it seems to me he's just an opportunist. Let's face it - there's not much money to be made as a Black Liberal. Being a Black Conservative is a gold mine. Can't fault the guy for making a good buck.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:38 PM
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25. "No Money For A Black Liberal"? |
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I Disagree Man, I Hear You. I Just Disagree - If Only They Could Get On The Radio They'd Make A Killing. The Black Community Would Love To Have A Liberal Leader!
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:40 PM
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=== If Only They Could Get On The Radio They'd Make A Killing ===
They can't get on the radio.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:43 PM
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29. Well Said.... I Almost Forgot |
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That We're Supposed To Be In An Equal/Fair Market Enviroment - My Bad
Hopefully, Franken Can Get Us Some Air Time.
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Tue Feb-10-04 10:54 PM
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36. He's an embarassment. |
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Larry is nothing more than, as nothingshocksmeanymore says, "window dressing" for the conservative movement.
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:34 AM
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37. i liked him on Moral Court |
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I've never heard his radio talk show.
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:36 AM
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38. Elder was talking up apartheid today, if you can believe it. |
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He's absolutely sickening.
He was saying that there were fewer murders in South Africa when they had apartheid.
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:46 AM
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39. Can A White Chick Butt In? |
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This guy is one freaking GWB-sucking ass clown. The Studio City CA branch of Neighbors For Peace And Justice have been harassed by his group of (mostly white suburban) goons during their peaceful Friday night vigils. I cannot STAND this guy. Worse than Rush.
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Wed Feb-11-04 12:58 AM
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40. What is there to say? |
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he is the same as any other conservative white or black.
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:47 AM
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42. Libertarianism for the Uninformed and Gullible |
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Larry Elder, as far as I know, does not consider himself a traditional conservative (or paleoconservative), but he does espouse libertarian viewpoints (ending the war on drugs and repealing the Wagner Act (aka No more Trade Unions)). His books are shallow and poorly-formed introductions of a basic right-libertarian "philosophy". If you're interested in African American political authors, good choices are Cornel West (on the left) and Thomas Sowell (on the right).
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