Bill Clinton is A GREAT PERSON

[swinney]

1.Bill Clinton never WHINED.
2.Bill Clinton never LIED except on ML.
3.Bill Clinton had most CONSERVATIVE Fiscal Polices of any recent president.
4.Bill Clinton did not DEMEAN other people.
5.Bill Clinton was always a GENTLEMAN around women.Per Gennifer Flowers in response to claim of Paula Jones.
6.Bill Clinton spent his entire life like Christ DOING GOOD FOR OTHERS
7.Bill Clinton never CHASED WOMEN. They chased him.
8. Bill Clinton told his staff--"Never demean my opponent.He is not my enemy just my political opponent".
9. Bill Clinton said in 1980 campaign "I will never use my religion for political purposes". Never has. Considers it personal.

I challenge anyone to tell me one LIE Bill Clinton ever told us on his Policies. Just one. I consider a LIE --an intent to deceive.

Read my very long list of Bush LIES.

want a list of good comments on Clinton by people such as Billy Graham.

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[brainwashed_youth]

1. um....

don't know if you should have that "never lied EXCEPT..." part in there. A lie is a lie any way you cut it. But I agree, Clinton is a good man who just made some very dumb mistakes.

[Charlls]

2. a man without mistakes

its like a sandwitch without meat

[brainwashed_youth]

22. i like pbj's

and they don't have meat:hi:

[swinney]

16. I stand by never lied except ML.

He admits he tried to deceive on her.

Tell me one other lie--intent to deceive by Bill Clinton.

GWB is another story. He is a pathological liar.

[dennis4868]

21. you can say....

he never lied about public policy....who gives a crap if he lioed about his personal life....

[Lab Owner]

3. Just one??

"I challenge anyone to tell me one LIE Bill Clinton ever told us on his Policies. Just one."

Middle-class tax cut.

[ComerPerro]

4. Try again

Bear in mind that your president has no excuse for lying as much as he does, seeing as he has a completely Republican controlled government to support him.

[papau]

6. middleclas tax cut was proposed - defeated in Congress -% of GOP

that voted fror the Clinton middle class tax cut was ..what ..I can't hear you

Seems Bill wanted a short term stimulus - and our friends in the GOP decided nothing would be better.

And our Dem friends just do not march in lock step in Congress - so without the GOP vote it died.

[swinney]

12. Yes-He said he would get a middle class tax cut.

NO HE DID NOT LIE.

A lie is --when you intend to deceive.

He intended to do it. Read Bob Woodwards "The Agenda". He covers how Clinton raised the roof with his CEA(Council Of Economic Advisers).

He told them "You are the experts and you let me make a promise I could not keep"

They replied--"We did not know the Deficit was as bad as we now find it. Bush covered it". I do not buy their comment.

Clinton had courage to back off and do what was best for America. In spite of political heat.

GHW Bush had same courage. He took heat from "read my lips" when he increased taxes to fight the rapidly increasing deficit.

Neither lied. They intended to follow through on promises but conditions changed.

Quite different from Reagan. He was told by his OMB head "your fiscal policy will create 200B deficits as far as the eye can see. Reagan did not have intelligence to comprehend the disaster of his policies

A lie---intent to deceive when statement is made. GW Bush has told many.

[lovedems]

5. I will always feel lucky and will tell my kids how happy I have been

to have "grown up" during the Clinton administration. There isn't anything anyone could say to me not to love The Big Dog. He was exactly what this country needed after 8 years of Raygun and 4 years of BFEE.

[1gobluedem]

7. He is also brilliant

And radiates charisma. The first time I saw him speak, the energy in the room was electric. And when he entered the room you could actually feel a surge of pure emotional power. I don't often feel like that but I actually felt chills run down my spine.

My secretary was a commencement usher when President Clinton spoke at commencement at the university were I work. She was about ten feet away from him and said she felt that same magnetism just radiating from him. And it wasn't hero worship; she is very apolitical. It's just something you can't help feeling when you're near him. Unlike the wave of disgust and foreboding that * conjures up.

HOW I miss Bill Clinton.

[JPace]

8. Bill Clinton was far from perfect....

but what I truly believe is that the man
had great love for the average American and
worked tirelessly trying to better our lives.

He had a brilliant mind, unfathomable tolerance
for differences, and wisdom that let him understand
complex issues in a way that most could not.

I miss him very much.

[waterman]

9. Here is what I mentioned about him in a thread two days ago:

He did his homework, knew the numbers... showed up for work.....
rolled up his sleeves and got to business. Was engaging with individuals and institutions. Had some compassion. He had fun too, and not just Monika fun, but I think he really had a good time being president. I think he made a positive difference in this country and in the world. And people miss him more than is obvious, especially in other nations.

[AZCat]

11. My friends and I have come to the same conclusion

This is the guy who would stay up late working FOR US!
If you were an employer, would you rather hire the guy who cares so much about the job that he works overtime (without pay) to get the job done, or the guy who demands you stop looking over his shoulder and maxes out his vacation/sick time every year and heads home at 4:30 every day?
Bill was the man!

[FlaGranny]

13. All that is true. I don't agree with some of the

stuff he did, but everything you say about him is true. His eight years were easily full of more confidence than any of the other last 20 years. While we might not always have agreed with everything, most of what he did was stellar. The mood of the country during his time was the best I can remember.

[LSK]

10. Can we get over the Clinton years please

Based on his job, he blows Bush away. But Clinton was by no means squeaky clean. Either way, Clinton is not running for President. So can we focus on the future and how to dump Bush and how to fix his mess?

[FlaGranny]

14. It does the soul good to be reminded

of better times.

[waterman]

15. Don't shit on our parade. There's nothing wrong with nostalgia.

[swinney]

17. Henry Hyde on Clinton

"Had he not messed with ML he would have gone down in the history books as one of the all time great presidents".

Clintons record of accomplishments is unequaled.

There are no biggies like Universal Health Care but thousands of good little things which made us better off.

HE WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE DA MAN.

HISTORY WILL LOVE HIM.

MOVIES WILL BE FAIR TO HIM WHEN NO CONSERVATIVES AROUND TO SMEAR.

[Bandit]

20. Sometimes a person needs a point of comparison

Then again when it comes to Bush* there is no comparison.

[Catherine Vincent]

18. Yes. He is a great person and DAMN any republican that says differently!

[Selwynn]

19. I like what Noam Chomsky has to say about the "Clinton Era."

[G_j]

23. a bit over the top

comparing him with Christ.

The gap between rich and poor continued to sky rocket, as did the prison population under Clinton. Jesus was explicit in his instructions to help these groups.

I wouldn't have bothered raining on the parade, but the Christ reference was just too much.

And I sure wish he had pardoned Leonard Peltier, who will probably now die in prison.

on edit, To balance, I should also point out that he did many, many good things and I especially appreciate him making a strong stand against the Republican assault on the environment! He is missed for sure!

[swinney]

24. Clinton rich got richer

Sho did. But--Each quintile grew in worth and income except the very top made out like bandits as in 1980's.

Reference to Christ. I stick by the fact that Clinton cared for the Least Amongst us. His polices were directed to middle class and poor.

The true anti-christ was Reagan and the Conservatives who care only for Money Changers In the Temples.Let the rest eat cake.

Bush policies are anti-christ. Enrich the rich. Blink and get killed.

[depakid]

25. Clinton lied plenty about policy

Two glaring examples:

1. Clinton's promises and representations to environmental and conservation groups in return for concessions during the Northwest Forest Plan- which he turned around and abrogated by signing the so called "Salvage Rider," i.e., logging without laws. To his credit, he later apologized about that- years later.

2. Clinton's many statements about the Telecommunications Bill to the effect that it would increase conpetition and lower cable rates- Well, I think we all know what happened with that one, and to my knowledge, Clinton has never expressed any regret over it.