Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Max Cleland's coming to town tomorrow

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 12:08 PM
Original message
Max Cleland's coming to town tomorrow
to speak at the local VFW. I'm putting together a package of lit to hand out to anybody I can get to take it.

Two packets, really. The first is on the AWOL story. It consists of:

1) the Feb 15 WaPo story "Few can offer confirmation of Bush's guard service"
2) the Tom Paine story "Finally, the truth about Bush's military service record," and
3) a copy of the orders suspnding Bush from flying status.

The second packet deals with RW attacks on military vet politicians. It consists of
1) an Oct. 16, 2002 article from the Gainesville (GA)Times, "Chambliss attack ad against Cleland both misleading, reckless" and
2) a current Newsday story, ""1971 photo of Kerry doctored."


For any politically advanced vets, I'm throwing in the Feb 15 Maureen Dowd NYT piece, "The thief of Baghdad.

Thanks to everybody who contributed to this effort, especially DUer Stephanie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 12:33 PM
Response to Original message
1. Your packet is a brilliant idea
Good luck and let us know how the meeting goes
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 12:39 PM
Response to Original message
2. Seeing & meeting Max is a real treat...
...you are in for an inspiring evening, I tell you what....


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 12:44 PM
Response to Original message
3. Max Cleland is the cat's pajamas.
I'm jealous that you get to hear him.

I hold out serious hope that he will be our VP nominee.

Ralph Reed should be ashamed of himself for smearing Cleland.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
4. Send me info on the VFW if you don't mind by PM.
I'd love to make it there, and may be in the area. My schedule is super hectic, but this would be well worth it if I can swing it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:30 PM
Response to Original message
5. PLEASE ASK HIM ABOUT 9/11 INVESTIGATION!
Edited on Sun Feb-15-04 02:37 PM by JackRiddler
Max Cleland is one of the few politicians and only member (now former) of the 9/11 Commission to stand up and openly proclaim that the Bush administration is conducting a coverup of its responsibility for the 9/11 attacks.

Please see the article below, from Nov. 28th, for details including links.

I doubt you will want to add it to your info packet for the vets, but could you at least present it to Cleland? Or at least ask him about this vital issue?

Feel free to edit it to suit your taste, or even to delete the passages that you think might be embarrassing to Cleland. This is not about Cleland, it is about the Bush administration's 9/11 coverup, and his brief, possibly heroic effort to break through it.

Thanks.

Bush bribes Max Cleland to shut up?

By Jack Riddler

Fri., Nov. 28, 2003

A month has passed since former Senator Max Cleland, member of the National Commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks (the Kean Commission), told the New York Times that the White House and President Bush's re-election campaign had reason to fear what the commission was uncovering in its investigation of intelligence and law enforcement "failures" before Sept. 11.

"As each day goes by," Cleland said, "we learn that this government knew a whole lot more about these terrorists before Sept. 11 than it has ever admitted."
(New York Times, Oct. 26, 2003 at http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/26/national/26KEAN.html?pagewanted=print&position= )

In the meantime, the Kean Commission has accepted a deal to radically limit their access to the White House documents detailing what high-level administration officials were told in advance of the attacks - the Presidential Daily Briefings or PDBs, including the one we know was entitled "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN U.S." and that warned of imminent hijackings (Aug. 6, 2001).

The only two delegates of the Commission who will be allowed to see *pre-edited* versions of these documents both have obvious conflicts of interest: Philip Zelikow has advised the Bush administration and wrote a book with Condoleeza Rice last year; whereas Jamie Gorelick is a former high-level adviser to President Clinton, whose PDBs will also come under scrutiny. The other commissioners will know only what Zelikow and Gorelick report back to them, based on their notes, which the White House will also be allowed to "edit."

Cleland and commission member Tim Roemer, a former congressman, both objected to the deal. "A majority of the commission has agreed to a bad deal," Cleland said in a stunning interview, reproduced below, in which he invokes the sorry history of the Warren Commission. "It is a national scandal... the Warren Commission blew it. I'm not going to be part of that. I'm not going to be part of looking at information only partially. I'm not going to be part of just coming to quick conclusions. I'm not going to be part of political pressure to do this or not do that..."

Cleland pulls no punches about the possible darker implications of the White House's secrecy fetish: "Let's chase this rabbit into the ground here. They had a plan to go to war and when 9/11 happened that's what they did; they went to war." (See below for more.)

Last week came the news that Bush suddenly appointed Cleland to the board of the Export-Import Bank, as a result of which "he will have to leave the commission investigating the Sept. 11 terror attacks." So far only The Washington Times has reported details of this story; the rest of the media have completely ignored it. (See http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20031123-091108-4750r.htm)

Just when the White House invokes a Nixonian "executive privilege" in the struggle to keep its secrets, how is it possible that Bush can simply act to remove the most outspoken member of the Kean Commission by means of a cushy appointment? What other inducements were applied to Cleland to get him to leave the Commission?

This is tantamount to a confession that Cleland is right - the White House has serious dirt to hide! And Cleland is hardly the first high-level representative to pose these questions. I shall cite just two examples: For asking, starting in March 2002, what the Bush administration may have known in advance of Sept. 11, Georgia congresswoman Cynthia McKinney was attacked from all sides and run out of Congress on a wave of millions in Republican campaign contributions.

Later that year, Senator Bob Graham headed the congressional joint investigation into Sept. 11. Despite its highly limited purview, the congressional investigation was still subjected to heavy executive censorship in its final report, including the deletion of an entire 28-page section that apparently details connections between Saudi Arabian elites and Qaeda (and possibly of the Bush family and Bin Laden family businesses). During his brief run for the presidency this year, Graham said the most important facts about 9/11 have yet to be revealed to the public.

Let us leave aside the rich and disturbing history of how the White House has otherwise obstructed the 9/11 investigations for more than two years, and return to the present:

Now, Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle is expected to nominate Cleland's replacement on the Kean Commission.



Other than Cleland, every other member of the Commission has had previous close ties to the national security establishment, oil companies, airline companies, or all three. These are obvious vested interests! Given these vested interests, isn't it about time there was someone on the Commission who has an obvious vested interest not in maintaining secrecy, but in full disclosure?

Until now, the work of the Commission has been tracked by several groups including the 9/11 Family Steering Committee, a group appointed by relatives of people who died in the attacks. They have been among the most outspoken advocates of disclosure. Shouldn't a member of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee be appointed as Cleland's replacement?

Now is the time for all who support the principle of open government and disclosure, without which democracy is impossible, to make their voice heard. Forward this mail to everyone you can. Call or fax Daschle's office today to urge that he appoint a member of the Family Steering Committee as Cleland's replacement. (See below for information on contacting Daschle.) Write and fax your media contacts to cover this story.

Do it in your own words - and be insistent!

And what if this doesn't work? What if the only supposedly independent investigation into the events of Sept. 11 completes its descent into farce? Then the time will have come for citizens to take this into their own hands; if the government isn't going to let us know what it already knows about Sept. 11, then we the people have the right to sit in judgement on that government, and to establish our own citizens' truth commission.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 02:36 PM
Response to Original message
6. got his signature at the Fairfax Virginia rally.....
it was great...as the Virginia Fire Fighters carried Max off the stage and into his wheelchair...he rolled by me...and I asked him for his signature....people were pushing his chair and saying there was no time...

Max told them to STOP....I had a pen/paper, but he insisted on finding his own pen...reached over with his left arm into his right pocket...flung a pen UP INTO THE AIR for a double-flip, and then into his left hand for the signature...it was OUTSTANDING...

GO MAX !!!!....I told him "millions of Americans LOVE you"....and he thanked me and rolled on......
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 05:43 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC