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Tue Feb-17-04 09:42 AM
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Huge Crisis developing in Haiti, will Bush invade this country next? |
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I guess since it's poor and mostly black with few national resources, probably not. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,111622,00.html
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Tue Feb-17-04 09:46 AM
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Tue Feb-17-04 09:49 AM
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2. Not like Aristide is George Washington |
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Rigged the elections in 2000, and if you speak out against Aristide, you get arrested or killed.
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Tue Feb-17-04 09:53 AM
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Before him, the Duvaliers and the Tontons Macoutes were much more brutal, and whoever comes after will probably be worse.
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Tue Feb-17-04 01:53 PM
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There may have been some election rigging but he won the vote by over seventy percent and would do so again. The poor people love him. It is the land owners and the wealthy that make up the opposition and it is because they don't want to support their country and pay taxes. They being the rich and elite of course have the backing of the Bush* Cabal so the US can't officially back a group trying to overturn an Elected Leader in a Democracy but they also won't help Aristide out by assisting in training and armament. It is exactly the same situation as when Bush 1 was in power. There are going to be refugees on the beach in Florida from now on.
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Tue Feb-17-04 09:53 AM
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we are out of troops,plus it`s a no win situation for bush plus not enough haitians in this country vote.
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Tue Feb-17-04 09:54 AM
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5. I have been trying to figure out |
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what Bill Clinton was doing in Haiti, but it is so confusing, what was he trying to do, who was he supporting, did Jimmy Carter's peace plan work (for a while it did I guess)? Is this the same problems that Haiti was having in the 90's?
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:50 AM
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Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 11:51 AM by Aidoneus
President GHWBush's people preferred to have the death squads and the junta rule over the country, but Clinton's people felt them to be too much of a liability. Aristide was re-installed, but kept on a very short leash--the "opposition" (aka the ex-junta leaders) were used to keep enough pressure on him that he did what he was told and didn't do anything stupid or selfish like putting the needs of Haitians above the IMF's preferences. This has worked out much better in forcing America's way on Haiti than when those leading the "revolt" now ruled, but the latter think Aristide is weak and that President GWBush (whom these people cheered when he was selected) can be convinced to allow Aristide to be deposed.
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Tue Feb-17-04 09:55 AM
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6. Hati has a left-wing government |
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The CIA has this taken care of.
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Tue Feb-17-04 10:28 AM
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Tue Feb-17-04 10:33 AM
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8. We can be sure of one thing |
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Whatever Smirk does or doesn't do will be the wrong thing. He has proven himself to be absolutely 100% wrong in every single policy decision Cheney has ever made for him
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Tue Feb-17-04 10:40 AM
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9. no - Liberia had to beg us to interfere |
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we had to be almost embarrassed internationally into sending a few dozen troops to Liberia when they begged us to come help.... Haiti is in the same boat.
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Tue Feb-17-04 10:44 AM
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Seriously. He can't invade Haiti. Everybody's off guarding uncle Dick's oil.
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:37 AM
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11. No, they already have a proxy army to use for that |
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Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 11:46 AM by Aidoneus
The leaders of the so-called "rebels" are mostly past US agents anyway, whose horrible crimes were assisted by our support and have since been sheltered. Some of the criminals responsible for the mass murders of the Duvaliar and 90s-junta periods rest comfortably right here in this country, safe from prosecution--that puts the hysteria about Saddam Husayn in an interesting perspective.
The leaders of the "rebels" are composed of these types, as well as some remnants of the Duvaliar dictatorship's political machine, backed by top "pro-American" business elites who cheered when Bush was selected, and former (well, not so "former" actually) heads of the right-wing death squads and the military junta that had deposed Aristide before and instituted another reign of terror over the country to prevent any sort of popular rule. Even if Bush's people had an army to send, they probably wouldn't need to.
Aristide was a very good man and has more recently in the last decade or so lost his way, but should still be supported against those who want to re-instate the era of fascist military rule that first deposed him and preceeded him under the Duvaliar dynasty, which was a great deal worse than whatever could be said of him now. I wouldn't expect US politicians to lift a finger in the right direction here.
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:41 AM
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12. Neocon memes for all occasions |
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If you tell them you think it is a bad idea for the US to occupy Iraq, they say: "Have you no heart? Don't you want to see the long-suffering Iraqi people live in freedom?"
If you ask why they ignore Haiti, or Africa, or AIDS, or worldwide hunger, they say: "We can't help everybody, you silly do-gooder."
His Chimperial Highness has always said that he only uses military force when America's strategic interests are involved. In other words: OIL. Markets. Cheap Labor.
Haiti, the poorest nation in the western hemisphere, and mind you, that's against some VERY tough competition, is a disaster area on a good day. smirky will ignore it, because there is no oil there. Conditions there are going to get very very bad over this next year, folks -- it will eventually become a crisis of humanity.
smirky may invade Cuba for humanitarian reasons, i.e. open free markets so there are more flavors of ice cream available-- but don't expect any action on Haiti, no matter what the hell happens there, and it is going to get very bad.
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Tue Feb-17-04 11:59 AM
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No oil, nothing to steal, no policial gain.
No.
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Tue Feb-17-04 01:02 PM
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If the answer is no then, NO he won't go help.
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Tue Feb-17-04 01:07 PM
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17. Clinton calmed Haiti without firing a shot |
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I was very impressed with Clinton when he dealt with Haiti.
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