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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 12:52 PM Original message |
Jerry Brown makes me sick! |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. we're running ahead here, eh? |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. do you not even notice the double standard |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Do the council and jerry drive public vehicles...? |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You are trying to isolate this single instance |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Be coherent |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Stop focusing so much on Jerry Brown |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. point accepted, what to do with privacy erosion |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. agreed and I am not optimistic |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Then fix the discrepancy |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. The job doesn't exist for you. It's there for the people. |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. will someone please think about the children!?! |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. GPS can be a good tool |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Police State Infrastructure |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Cut the bullshit |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. the corps are the government |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Pick out a technology that is really anti-privacy |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. GPS has been used against activist |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Then it helps to know ways around it |
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Brian Sweat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. You're exaggerating. |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. don't worry |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. more simply put |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. straw man, NEXT |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. I think ALL vehicles should have GPS |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. I agree: if anyone's going to be tracked, all should be tracked |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I lost repect for Jerry when he approved of shooting protesters |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. That is the first factual evidence |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. creeping surveillance is a problem |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. creeping surveillance |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I disagree with you |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. You sound a bit like a luddite |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Technology is not a neutral force |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I agree, and i see nothing wrong with luddites |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. about that irony |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 05:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. actually now that I think about it |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. mate, you gotta explain that |
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Brian Sweat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. I question the claim |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. No surprise |
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Brian Sweat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. I think that you and I have a different definition of rioter. |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Yep, anybody who opposes bush is a "Rioter" |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. I agree. Jerry Brown had BEEN an activist and protestor |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Where does it say that the mayor has a public vehicle? |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. As I said before (i.e. please read what I posted) |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. It doesn't, but if he doesn't then he's one of very few such mayors |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. luddites and tracking assets |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. The article can characterize the problem in one way |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. and the issue sidestepped is workers rights? |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Straw man, the issue is living in a centralized surveillance society |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. The game is up. |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. this apparatus has been put in place by & for the fascist corporate state |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 06:24 AM Response to Reply #39 |
51. I get a sense of conventional outlook here :-) (which is surprising) |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. While criticizing Jerry Brown, think about if it was Arnold instead. |
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