Dookus
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Tue Mar-02-04 11:45 PM
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Looks like Ahnuld's propositions will win |
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and as usual, I have voted the losing way on all four propositions.
55 and 56 losing
57 and 58 winning handily
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Tue Mar-02-04 11:56 PM
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Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 11:59 PM by Dookus
this is bad news
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California is voting:
NO for school infrastructure NO for any taxes YES for long-term debt YES for a balanced budget amendment
So it seems we have to borrow all our money and let the next generation pay. Luckily, I have no kids, and won't live forever, so I guess I make out.
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:00 AM
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:09 AM
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6. I voted no on 57 58 especially... it was hard to decide so I split my |
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vote and went yes on another controversial prop. Just like always, none of my votes go my way.
Oh, well. Maybe the bonds the boobenater buys will kick back some bucks for his presidential run??????? ;(
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:06 AM
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i voted for 57, albeit grudgingly. the state needs money, that much is certain. if we had a dem governor, we'd raise revenue from those who could afford it. but with idiotboy in the mansion, state services would be guaranteed to suffer.
again: grudgingly.
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:08 AM
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I know we need the money. But passing 57 is just taking the easy way out. The next generation doesn't vote.
We should pay our own way.
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:15 AM
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about paying our own way, and that 57 is the easy way out. but i fear that if we chose the hard way, with blockhead in office, the hard way would be "vee must cut zee zocial programs vile i smoke a cuban cigar."
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:08 AM
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In fact, they are the only of the propositioons that matter. If you go to the Sec. of State's website, they are not even giving a county by county map of those two, but the idiot's props are completely updated. prop 55: http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/mapR055.htmprop 56; http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/mapR056.htm arnold's credit card: http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/mapR057.htm and his impossible dream: http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/mapR058.htmthey don't even consider 55 and 56 important enough to update.
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:12 AM
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8. check out this nice java tool |
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:17 AM
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10. I'm already using that one. |
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I just found it amusing that they don't even try to pretend that they care about anything other than these two props.
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:45 AM
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14. we must be seeing different things |
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all four props are being updated in my window.
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:10 AM
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7. I voted just the opposite |
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Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 12:22 AM by Jack Rabbit
I'm probably most upset about 56 going down. Ever since we passed that two-thrids requirement several years ago, the legislature has not just been late passing a budget but ridiculously late.
The only problem I had with propsition 56 is that it lowered the required number from two-thirds to 55%; it should be a simple majority.
Howard Jarvis must be having a cold drink in that hot place he's been for years in celebration tonight.
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:24 AM
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UGH....I can't stand the governator.
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:24 AM
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12. I was kind of shocked that so little % turned out to vote...next time I |
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Will drive around town with a huge sign on my vehicle telling people to VOTE. One cannot complain if one doesn't vote. Not voting pisses me off. I didn't talk to a single person today that said they bothered to vote. I'M IN DISBELIEF. :wow:
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:43 AM
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13. CA voters have once again demonstrated... |
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Their irresponsibility, gullibility, ignorance and stupidity. I can't believe the Dems went along with this farce.
The failure of 56 leaves budgetary control in the hands of a bunch of repug pricks isolated from any of the havoc that they cause.
When I was voting I heard the monitors talking about how California is now a white minority state in a disapproving way (I look like just another old cracker, one among many, so they ignored me).
The future doesn't look real hopeful to me, people. Kerry in the WH isn't going to change the petty, self centered, venal way people are.
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Wed Mar-03-04 12:50 AM
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15. Un-F***ing-believable! |
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Wed Mar-03-04 01:46 AM
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I voted yes on 55 and 56 and no on 57 and 58, and the last two have won while it looks like 56 is dead but 55 looks like it just squeaked by. This sucks, we are now going to be held hostage to a small minority in the legislature because of that.
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Wed Mar-03-04 02:07 AM
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Wed Mar-03-04 02:39 AM
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19. enough with the Diebold stuff |
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diebold is NOT why these propositions won or lost.
Seriously.... enough already.
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Wed Mar-03-04 02:22 AM
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18. I voted yes on all 4 .. |
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Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 02:23 AM by zwade
2 outta 4 aint bad...
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Dookus
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Wed Mar-03-04 02:40 AM
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well you're doing a lot better than I am.
I voted no for long-term debt for short-term problems,and no for a balanced budget amendment. I was against it on the national level, I'm against it for the state level. It's a silly, arbitrary limitation.
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Wed Mar-03-04 02:44 AM
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21. I was gonna vote no.. but last night decided it.. |
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Davis was stumping with Arnold for the same thing.. yes on 57 & 58.. and I figured... maybe they know something I dont.. and my state is so dicked up I want it to have the best chance..
That was my reasoning... A top dem and governator.. together.. plus pass in our leg = I voted for it.
Another factor honestly was some on DU wanting it to fail just to hurt the state because it was ahhnoolld and would make him look bad... that wasnt acceptable to me.. being as this is my home... that showed me.. maybe it was good.. kinda reverse logic.
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Wed Mar-03-04 04:58 AM
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I lost all the way around. :argh: :-(
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Wed Mar-03-04 03:26 AM
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22. 55 is now winning by a small margin! nt |
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Wed Mar-03-04 04:36 AM
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23. and CA Democrats just hand Ahnuld a big victory |
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Most of the states major Dem's came out in favor of this crap. Now Ahnuld looks like a powerhouse. Can anyone explain to me what the hell they were thinking? It's not like this prop's are good for the state. I don't get it...
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Wed Mar-03-04 04:40 AM
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Hell, what were they thinking when they elected him. Wasn't just R's voting for the guy... Astonishing...
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Wed Mar-03-04 06:54 AM
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Arnold's ad campaign was worth it I guess. He threatened armageddon cuts to education and services if it wasn't passed, pretty much scaring liberals into voting for it to save the progams which they love. I voted against it becuase it was irresponsible policy, but many of my liberal friends voted for it, reasoning that we can pay the debt later when the economy isn't in the tanker.
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Wed Mar-03-04 05:17 AM
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26. We talk about California Cheese, but never about California Wool |
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And lamb and mutton.
Sometimes you just go to bed early on election night...
I drive a lot in L.A., and have yet to see a Kerry bumpersticker; I don't even know what the artwork is. In fact, over the past year, I've seen about 4 Dean stickers, one Graham sticker, one Kuchinch sticker (but a bunch on telephone polls and construction walls) and only my and my wife's Edwards stickers.
Our voice finally gets to count in a primary, the initiatives are important and yet nobody seems to be bothered.
Baaaaaa...
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