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SaddenedDem (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:27 AM Original message |
Places of worship intrude on voting's sacred privacy |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. I vote in a year round school. |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm surprised they have polling places in churces. That Doesn't seem right |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Churches and fire halls |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Why wouldn't they "allow" it |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. It's no advantage |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. It's not just a place to vote. They are trying to sell their message to |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. So, the U.S. should just build about 100,000 or more halls |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Uh, school gymnasiums?? duh. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Gyms, fire halls, etc. |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. How About President Pussyboy's Pig Farm? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Now that was helpful |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Anytime!! Join Me In Supporting Senator Kerry for President, Will You? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Somehow |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
98. They can't have it reserved 2 times a year for voting? |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #34 |
127. School gymnasiums seem to work OK here in NV. |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. At least you admit it! - you want Democracy to be beholden to the Church. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. No, I expect common courtesy and am constantly disappointed |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. It would be better if |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Then where do we hold voting? |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Is your Pastor a Public Servant? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. The whole common courtesy thing seems to be lost here |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Either you want a clear line between Gov't and Religion... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Many of us are religious |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
99. It only appears that the churches saved us a hassle and expense. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:01 PM Response to Reply #99 |
111. No they don't |
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Hammie (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
62. No shit |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Almost a great idea...but it's not the private sectors responsibility... |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
79. Not The Job of the Private Sector??!! |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Private citizens = Private sector - NOT |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Then you must be prepared to spend billions of dollars |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Billions - sure |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Huh? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
100. THAT is a fallacy! |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
104. So you know what the cost of doing what you believe would have to be done |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. No study needed |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. No |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Many paths of collective action.... |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Who Guards The Government? |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Yes - all of us - Declaration of Independence... |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-04 10:32 AM Response to Reply #95 |
125. Let Me See If I Have This Correctly |
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Hammie (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
92. Private Sector? WTF? |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. No surprise... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
97. They don't have to build 100,000 more halls!!! |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #97 |
113. Clearly there are NOT plenty |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
116. Honestly we need to make a way bigger deal of voting |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Um |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Collectively, they fall on ALL sides of every issue |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. My suggestion |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I think that is the current policy |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Perhaps...but |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Schools ARE used |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Precisely!!! |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. No, you are the one who doesn't get it |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Uh Mr. Genius |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Not in every community we don't |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. In my community...Pennsylvania... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. In my experience |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
107. You want others to believe they don't get it because... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. I am not putting down anyone |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #114 |
128. How do you know it will cost billions of dollars? |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. Not consistent on every issue? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Not so |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Some so |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Response |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. I'll make this concession... |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Eesh, thats worse |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Agreed - bad idea...but... |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. Why would it be any more chaotic than 1 day voting? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Instead of one day of chaos, you would get several |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Instead of one day of chaos, you would get several... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. You propose several days -- one site |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #86 |
118. So what? nt |
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thebaghwan (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. My problem is that I don't want to step on ground consecrated in the |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. Then that is good reason for an absentee ballot |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. That's a terrible reason for an absentee ballott... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I have never known someone unwilling to walk on ground before |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
90. Just Curious -- |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Thanks for being so honest... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. You attempt to misrepresent what I have said |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. So, how about asking your poll workers? |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Good point |
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SaddenedDem (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 09:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Ummm, hello..... |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 09:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. You know when you use all caps like that |
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SaddenedDem (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 09:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I posted it because a DUer was troubled by the same thing yesterday |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Nope |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. In Post 5 |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
64. Yes, but you linked it with no opinion.... |
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SaddenedDem (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #64 |
126. Perhaps you missed post #7 |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. My Polling workers were little old ladies... |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
119. That should tell you sonething. Your vote is meaningless. |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. You could do both |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
9. Why DON'T we invest in Democracy? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Why don't we spend even more money |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Yes - And how much do we spend now? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. The classic solution |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. "The classic dodge" |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yes abortion is more important |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
123. Equal protection is a prerequisite to your right to chose. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
122. "local Elementary school library..." |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
121. More important than the viability of our democracy? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 09:51 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. That viability is not threatened by this |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
120. Yes it is well worth it. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
19. In Oregon everyone votes from the comfort of their home |
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WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
21. funny story |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
22. The Christians I know... |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Unfortunately |
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thebaghwan (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
25. My polling place is a r/w christian church. One year the Pastor was out |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
51. I was surprised (and shocked) when I learned |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
55. We used to vote at a catholic church.. this year the library |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
103. There was no reason they couldn't have isolated the voting area |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
105. A dagger to the "dual-use" concept... |
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Hammie (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
56. Polling places are decided by individual states. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
61. I Once Asked...Voted In A Synagogue |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
68. Once again... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. And your solution is? |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. The government could pay Diebold to install touch screens |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. LOL |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
106. Seperation of Church and State |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:07 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. Of course I am serious |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
74. Oh, the HUMANITY! |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
94. The Best Comment in this thread - Az - thanks... |
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Heyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
101. Those people bothered by voting in a church... |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. It increases the likelyhood that church members... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 06:30 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. But Polling Places are not based on church membership |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Good point - thanks |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. NP - Not all of us have the answers |
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-04 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
117. We have public buildings such as schools, town halls, etc. |
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