Who here are "REAL" Kerry Supporters...

[AmyStrange]

What I mean by "REAL" Kerry Supporters are folks who know that being mean to those whom are not 100% behinf him won't get Kerry votes in Nov. We see enough of that with Bush.

We also need to tell this to everyone who slams Kerry.

Like MurikanDemocrat says (don't mean to put you on the spot MD),

"Vote for whom you wish and spare me the bullshit."

I would like to add:

that you are not voting for a president, but a supreme court nominee
more than a president,

(more to come)

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(EDIT: unstraining the logic)

[patricia92243]

1. Not "real" - that's me but I will vote for himin Nov. - does that count

for anything?

[AmyStrange]

3. of course it does...

unless you live in Florida then it's a tossup,
hehehe (sorry)

d

[Lexingtonian]

2. seems pretty strained logic to me

Of course Kerry being 'mean' doesn't gain him votes. It does make it much harder for Dubya's emotional appeals to gain traction, though, if they are met with equal vehemence and register and make Dubya look like a manipulator and dumb. That Deanite stuff is definitely passe, no matter how you try to talk it up....

And Kerry is going to be more of a President and important in the overall picture than is now apparent. We won't have a Democratic Congress until 2007 or so, it seems, and he'll be needed to get some important stuff through.

The USSC Five fractured over Lawrence v. Texas, if you haven't noticed- O'Connor and Kennedy have separated away from them and make liveable compromises with the Liberal Four that result in moderate-to-liberal 6-3 verdicts rather than the previous sort of 5-4 covertly reactionary ones. That's why Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas have been so bitter these past couple of months.

[AmyStrange]

4. Edit: I added "mean to those not 100% behind Kerry"...

sorry, but the ages of most of SCOTUS helps support the animosity behind scaring folks into voting for Kerry just because his Scotus nominees will be better than Shrub and Co.

There's a reason why they call Gay Marriage a wedge issue,

d

[Lexingtonian]

5. I'd point to Congress rather than the USSC

It's far more important in day-to-day governance, e.g. the economy, taxes, and keeping a proper scope and set of commitments.

Having the White House helps a lot in midterms, especially when the electorate is marginally in favor of its side to begin with.

Gay marriage is crumbling fairly rapidly as a useful wedge issue- quickly enough that in a year it will only concern the true believers much.

[AmyStrange]

6. you're right...

but what me and you think is "more important" doesn't matter to voters.

What I'm talking about is the scare tactics being used in the DU and elsewhere that if you vote for Nader or don't vote at all "you" will be responsible for ALL the Bush SCOTUS nominees (especially considering their ages) that will probably decide constituitonal issues for decades to come.

Gay marriages won't go away after a year and will fire up in three to six months as most of the court challenges are brought up for decision. Right about election time. It's wa wedge issue like it or not,

d