Blue States are getting tired of Supporting the Red States

[Bandit]

Red States receive back far more Federal Dollars than they pay in while Blue States do not. The Blue States are actually Supporting the Red States. Alaska is a Red State that is receiving back more than five fold what they pay out. Funny every Red State has Republican Representatives and receive the Pork "Big Time". Time for them to "Pull Themselves Up by Their Bootstraps" and pay their own way. Don't ya think? I think if we have to listen to the Red/Blue state comparisons this should be noted.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

1. It's political power-the Repukes lobby for funds

I'm getting sick of my federal tax money supporting 'faith-based' intiatives that discriminate based on race, gender and sexuality.

[stepnw1f]

2. I'm sick

of people voting Republican, yet still taking the handouts from the Democrats.

[Gato Moteado]

3. time to cut the red states loose....

....i'm tired of my hard earned tax dollars used to support lazy, red neck freepers.

[stopthegop]

4. cut the red and blue apart..

how long you figure New York will survive?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

5. If the Northeast seceded, it would do alright

like California, it comprises most of the US's GNP.

[leftynyc]

28. Do you realize that New York

continually gives more to the Federal Government that it gets back? And don't even get me started on how much the upstate ("red" portion of the state) bleeds from downstate.

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[SoCalDem]

8. The map...according to population

[TNDemo]

7. Top ten states for receiving federal funds.

We had this discussion awhile back here on DU and we looked up the top ten states on some site. I don't have the site bookmarked but I did write down the states in the order they receive federal funds. They are:

1. New Mexico
2. Montana
3. West Virginia
4. Mississippi
5. North Dakota
6. Alaska
7. Virginia
8. Hawaii
9. South Dakota
10. Alaska

This originally came up because someone was complaining about being tired of having to support all the southern states with tax dollars while they voted Republican.

[Bandit]

9. Alaska seems to really raking it in as they are both sixth and tenth

on your list. Sometimes you just want to go Hmmmmmmm.

[TNDemo]

13. Oops.

That would be Alabama as #10.

[seabeyond]

10. ah, they are the welfare queens

good to know

[fob]

11. I've brought this up before and now I'm ready for a Constitutional

Amendment calling for No state getting more Fed Dollars than it gives.

For the most part the Donor States are Dem states and the Welfare States are freeper/bush* country. As the poster below says, there aren't enough people in Wyoming to support the interstates etc, but maybe if they get cut off from the Democratic "Agenda" for a little while, they just might wake up and stop voting repuke!

[SoCalDem]

12. That's the rationale they use for "tax-cuts"

Those that do not "pay" income taxes get no benefit from the tax cuts, so states that put in $xx, should not get $xxx back :)

Fair is fair...

Better yet.. States don't have to pony up anything, if their state needs it more.. Isn't that the way the state's righters want things???

[ulTRAX]

18. TERRIBLE idea

I have to disagree. There are greater efficiencies for the nation when there is some wise sharing of the wealth. Do you really think many of the Rocky Mountain states could have built their share of the national interstate highway system on their own? Should the rest of the nation sit back and NOT spend extra monies on education, health and job-training in poor states? What of a state that has more retirees than younger workers.... should it not get excess Social Security monies? Should FDA or NIH spend less in agriculture states even though that's where there's a greater possibility of some new animal pandemic beginning? Should military bases be spread evenly throughout the states even though it makes no military sense? Getting the idea?

[fob]

25. Of course you are right ulTRAX,

That's exactly what should happen, you must be a fellow Democrat!

I see the problem, someone turned my satire level down to 3, it should have been 7!

[ulTRAX]

26. humor lost

It's not the first time I've missed someone's jokes... then again, it's not the first time some have missed mine: exhibit A:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1209448

[keithyboy]

14. Great information. Kerry should be using this to quell the "welfare" fear

Nothing like understanding where the money is really going.

[Deja Q]

15. Hypocrisy

More proof the repukes are partisan barbarian hypocrites. "Do as I say but not as I do" sums them up rather neatly, I think...

[ulTRAX]

16. 5X? cite please

A few days ago I posted a federal spending map at http://romcache.tripod.com/fedspending.html

It shows that in FY99 Alaska received some 159% more in federal spending than it gave to Washington.

None the less an actually overlay of the voting and spending maps would be interesting.... or perhaps between the spending maps and which states get a bigger voice under the Constitution than their numbers deserve.

[Ksec]

17. great catch . Ill use this as ammo

[ulTRAX]

20. before you use it

Make sure it's actually true. My figure is that Alaska only gets 159% more... not 500%... at least in FY99.

http://romcache.tripod.com/fedspending.html

I'll dig up the name of the report that this map came from if you like.

[Jacobin]

19. Perhaps they should have allowed them to secede?

I'm just sayin......

[Cleita]

21. This has always been my argument against the electoral system

and other unfair govvernment practices, which makes those of us who pay the most have the least say in how we want our largesse spent. I have nothing against helping out those who need our help, I just want to be able to have the same voting clout that they have.

[oneighty]

24. Yes Cleita

What happened to one man one vote?

Truth is it never existed.

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[The Magistrate]

22. Hear Hear, Mr. Bandit!

This is something that makes me see red on a regular basis. Little angers me more than the sound of one of these 'heartland" creatures prattling on about self-reliance and getting free of the government, while every aspect of their local economies depends utterly on subsidization by taxes from the urban regions....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[JoeKSimmons]

23. With logic like that Harlem should be cut off from school aid

So any poor area in a city that takes in more than it sends out should be cut off? That's some real democracy you got going there bandit.

[democratreformed]

27. Well, you all have managed to do it again.

If this keeps up, I am going to have to seriously reconsider my choice of being a Democrat. Yep, I'd say most of these replies really uphold the values that I thought Democrats had.

[Tyler Durden]

29. Democrats REALLY have nothing against some states supporting others....

What Democrats have something against is a state taking in more than the put out AND THEN CRYING ABOUT TAX CUTS AND INDEPENDENCE FROM THE FED.

What we need here is some REALISM in the Red States, but that won't happen. Remember, the easiest way to get someone to resent you is to suggest if they are riding the Gravy Train that they should stop trying to DERAIL IT.