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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:01 PM
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This week in Politics, Advantage Bush
I am so sick of the F--ing Repugs I have boycotted every store that I know is run by them. I don't care how much futher I have to go or how much more I pay. I'm completely outraged!! http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=CAMPAIGN-03-18-04&cat=AN
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:07 PM
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1. Kerry is holding his own.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:12 PM
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2. Short term gain, long term loss
Bush gets a momentary bump, largely because Kerry is taking a little time off.

But the week's events weaken Bush in the long run. Economic news was bad, the stock market has been moving downwards, Iraq looks more like a quagmire than ever, and his war on terror even more ineffectual.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:14 PM
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3. Excellent observations. Bush will be hurt in the long term.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:22 PM
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5. Well It Depends
On ABC tonight there was a really good story about progress in Iraq. This news might help Bush. In the story they talked to people in Iraq who were happy that they could vote in election. There was one guy who was training for the Olympics. When Saddam was in power he could not do this. Even though many people may have opposed the war they may now begin to feel that the war has done some good. Since Kerry voted for the war people may be inclined to vote for Bush. So Bushes gains may be long term if the Democrats do not begin to attack him in other areas. Also, there was a report that jobs were on the way. I know that has been said before, but it is possible that it could help Bush. I really hope Bush does not get reelected, but the Democrats must do more.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:25 PM
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7. I don't know how Iraq will play out
IMO, Kerry's vote for the war is an asset rather than a liability. As for the economy, we've been waiting for jobs for months. Has anything really changed on that front?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:37 PM
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10. "Progress in Iraq"??? With more than 560 official military deaths...
...I wouldn't exactly call anything that happens in Iraq "progress". Do you think their survivors feel good about their senseless sacrifice in a war based on a pack of lies?

And by the way, tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis died during this most recent U. S. invasion...do you think their survivors think the war did "some good"?

And yes, jobs are on the way...in Mexico, India, Canada and anywhere else the major corporations can find dirt-cheap technical and manufacturing labor.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:15 PM
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4. Democrats Need to Fight More
The Democrats should be talking about how Bush has flipped flopped on every issue in Washington in 4yrs. Also, they need to make a big deal about how Bush campainged in 2000 with a now indicted terrorist. They also need to spell out that many of the defense systems that Kerry is said to have voted against were systems that many Republicans did not want, including the first President Bush and then Defense Secretary Dick Cheney. To sum everything up I think the Democrats are not doing enough. They are not really fighting back. They are letting Bush and the Republicans get away with too much. Kerry may be holding his own, but the Democratic Party does not seem to be holding its own.
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MadProphetMargin Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:23 PM
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6. This is the correct answer.
We're FAR too accomodating as a party.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:27 PM
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8. I'm not sure that's true anymore
but it was true for a very long time - too long.
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MadProphetMargin Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:29 PM
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9. Look around you.
For the last 3.5 years, the Dems in congress, for example, have given the GOP EVERYTHING they wanted. :mad:

Don't believe me? Take a look at the congressional voting record.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:39 PM
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11. I used to box and train fighters.
You don't have to win every minute of every round. Fact is, you don't have to win every round. It is unlikely that Kerry will overwhelm bush on every point on every issue. Example: ain't it great that Saddam is out of power? Sure, but let's examine the way it happened, the price we are paying, and the long-term consequences. Kerry is doing a great job of setting the pace. The republicans believed the democratic primary would wound the "winner." Didn't happen. We have a united front. People like Harold Ford are out there making progress for us. If anyone thinks bush made significant progress this week, I'd say he took some pretty hard shots. This fight is going our way. We're right where we need to be.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:55 PM
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12. Very good points and great analogy
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PA-DEM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 08:05 PM
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13. December,January, February and most of March--Advantage Democrats
Don't get queasy now we have a long way to go.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 08:38 PM
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14. Disagree.
The Bunk* campaign only won the "most lies and distortions spewed" contest. All the real news saw Bunk* losing his ass.
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