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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:57 PM
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NBC Reports Bush Has Weathered Clarke Storm!!
Whew, thank God, I was worried there for awhile, weren't you? But fear not. It is over. Bush has escaped damage from this horrible man and is well on his way to sweeping the country in '04. Well, that's what NBC Nightly News just told me. Here's their proof:

They show a poll that says that 65% of the people have not changed their mind about Bush (how many of those thought he was an asshole to being with?). 50% say Clarke is money/politically motivated and 25% say he is trustworthy. Hmmmmmm.....that means 35% CHANGED their minds and I doubt that someone who detested Bush would run to love him based on Clarke's testimony----that means 35% of people who like Georgie before now don't. And that's huge in a close race like this one. It also says that 50% DO NOT think Clarke is motivated by money or politics. Isn't it amazing how these propaganda whores of the Reich can distort crap like this and declare that he "weathered" the storm and his people are all relieved and believe they put in a hard week and diffused the issue. Move along now...nothing more to see here. Oh, they don't bring up that even repukes on the 9/11 Commission are now calling on Rice to publicly testify because they think this is a terrible political blunder on the part of the White House; or the poll (believe Gallup) cited on CNN that showed that Bush's leadership on terror numbers dropped from 65% to 57% in days. Yep, this hasn't done a thing to Bush and the weeks over; therefore, the problems over. Too bad Clarke is on Russert, Blitzer and Matthews just for starters over the next two days (and you can bet their mission is to see which one can destroy him---we'll see...they can't seem to get around the fact that that assistant backs up everything he says).
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:59 PM
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1. don't watch NBC--complete garbage
top to bottom, left to right, garbage
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:04 PM
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4. It was either NBC or the 30,000th basketball game of the day!! n/t
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:37 PM
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20. i hear you
sometimes i've seen it, too, with regrets coming quickly into the broadcast
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 06:59 PM
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2. General Electric LOVES the WAR pRESIDENT
Oh, and the pollution-tolerant pResident.

Bush helps GE bring good things (for them, big profits) to death.

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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bucknaked Donating Member (818 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:08 PM
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8. You think so? Well, the new F-22 happens to have YF120-GE-100 turbofans
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 07:10 PM by bucknaked
...two of them. ;)

BTW, yeah the "GE" stand for General Electronics, they make 'em, and they're counting on GW to buy 'em by the gross.

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markdd Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:32 PM
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18. Not to mention ...
The engines on F-15, F-16 and F/A-18
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:40 PM
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21. Isn't GE bringing Baghdad To Light, Too???
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:52 PM
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32. Welcome to DU, markdd!!
:toast:
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:03 PM
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3. What do you think Clarke will do when he hears this?
:evilgrin:
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:06 PM
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5. Saying
it doesn't make it so.

This isn't even close to being over.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:06 PM
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6. Six days after 60 minutes and whopping three days after Clarke's
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 07:08 PM by stopbush
testimony and NBC says the storm is over? Hell, the RW hasn't even had a chance to trollop out Phase II of their character assassination initiative! How DARE NBC steal the RNC's thunder! Well, NBC may think it's over, but rest assured that the WH and the VRWC will be doing everything they can to keep Clarke in the news for at least the next two weeks!

BTW - isn't this strange? Consider that Clarke appears for the full hour of NBC's MTP tomorrow, yet 18 hrs before that BIG appearance and NBC News is already telling its MTP audience, "move along...nothing to see here?"

I wonder how Potato Boy (Russert) feels about that?
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:07 PM
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7. Clarke wont be easy
Hes got spunk and if that Howdy Doody of NBC news thinks this will be an easy day hes in for a big surprise.

Clarke aint shy and he says exactly whats on his mind . Thats sure to throw Howdy off since most people play along with his game.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:08 PM
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9. Yeah and GE's Jack Welch
ordered NBC newscasters to call the election for Bush early on election night 2000, even though Florida was still undecided.

These people forget that they are supposed to REPORT the news and not DICTATE the news.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:13 PM
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12. Next batter.
Joe Wilson will step up to the plate next. Will it be a foul ball,a walk, base hit, double, tripple or a home run? hehehe
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:10 PM
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10. I Love Reading Premature Obituaries
This "newscycle" ain't done yet. Tomorrow will be a big day...Clarke gets an hour, Condi gets an hour. You decide. Let's see what the polls show then.

I hope Condi plays "victim" and does the Nixonian "executive privilidge" thing while again parading on another TV show.

Wingnuts are trying to wish this thing away now since they know they don't have facts or dirt to get Clarke and the more they screetch the more attention is being paid to other Chimpster problems.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:13 PM
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11. NBC used to be a real news network
Before the buyout. Now it's degenerated into the propaganda arm of General Electric.

Sad.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:16 PM
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13. Isn't it too early to really tell.
I mean accusations are still flying back and forth, and we have yet to hear what Condi has to say. Let the media continue to chew on this for awhile (hopefully they will) and see what else comes out.

Maybe they should try their poll again in a week or two.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:17 PM
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14. That was CLOSE!
:eyes:

Hell, they haven't seen ANYTHING yet. I mean c'mon, half the folks on DU are awaiting delivery of Clarke's book!


And trust me, once this starts hitting the libraries and folks have a chance to read it, things are gonna be weird.

I saw this newscast actually, and I yelled over my wok to my wife, "these fookers are in the eye of the storm and they don't even realize it!"
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:19 PM
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16. Oh, and the only reason I had it on NBC is...
....it is on channel 3 here, which is the channel for using the DVD, and my kids had just finished watching Bedknobs and Broomsticks and I clicked off the movie and there it was.

Angela Lansbury looked HOT!
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:18 PM
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15. Over? What about the perjury prosecution?

:evilgrin:
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:31 PM
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17. As of 4.28 PST
it's the biggest fucking story out there! And we have a war, an ailing economy, gas at record highs, medicaregate, plamegate, deforestationgate, Spaingate, Tom Delaygate, etceteragate, and this is the top story. NBC = leftover meatloaf.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:36 PM
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19. they saying this having seen the Clarke/MTP interview?
did pigfukboy sandbag Clarke, then screw him with mendacious analysis by thug follow-on shills?
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:44 PM
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22. The full effects have yet to be seen
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 07:51 PM by Piperay
how will this effect chimp's campaign promoting himself as tough on terror. No one is going to know that until the campaigns really start, they needn't think that the Democrats won't hammer them with it in commericials and debates. :think:


I remember when Watergate was called "a caper" and it seemed like Nixon had weathered that, but that "caper" ended up bringing his admin down and disgracing him.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:46 PM
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23. The storm has barely begun.
Sunday morning political shows and weekly news magazines have not yet mentioned the Clarke story. Book sales will continue to grow. The administration will get caught in many lies as it attacks Clarke and attempts to defend Bush. And eventually the 9/11 commission will issue its report.

None of these things will destroy Bush, but each will continue to chip away at his support. And slowly but surely his support will continue to decline just as it has since 9/11. If the trend since 9/11 does not reverse, Bush will lose badly.

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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:54 PM
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26. snippy--I forgot about the news magazines........
you're right--didn't even dawn on me that I haven't gotten any Time yet with what I imagine will be a cover story on this. Hope they don't do a "let's rip Clarke apart". Those magazines will indeed keep this in front of the people...all they way through the checkout line.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:48 PM
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24. The focus has been changed from Bush to Clarke
Democrats may have dropped the ball on this because they have let the issue change from whether Bush failed, to whether Clarke lied.

The right wing media helped, but Democrats just don't seem as good at damaging Bush as Republicans were at damaging Clinton.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:01 PM
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28. Democrats are more hesitant to tell outrageous lies.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:51 PM
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25. ha! and they never have hurricanes in Brazil either!

Clarke is on MTP, Late Edition tomorrow

Clarke is on Daily Show monday and Hardball

the 'Clarke storm' is still off-shore......

duct tape those windows bushies!!!
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judgegina Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:57 PM
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27. It was a steaming pile of crap!
The NBC report was about a Newsweek poll that said that 65% of the populace had not changed their opinion of Shrub. Well, BFD. If only 1% of the population changes their opinion of that fuckng idiot, then he loses. NBC's spin was disgusting...and I used to have a crush on Brokaw.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:06 PM
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29. I haven't changed my mind. So I guess I fall into that statistic.
Clarke's testimony didn't get me to change my mind about this most unholy and corrupt administration. I still think they are lying, evil scum-sucking murdering rat bastards.

Maybe I should explain that to MSGOP?
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:11 PM
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30. National Bozo Channel (NBC)
;)
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:40 PM
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31. Nothing But Crap
is what I like to call it. :evilgrin:
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:53 PM
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33. Fear not...
But fear not. It is over. Bush has escaped damage from this horrible man and is well on his way to sweeping the country in '04.

It ain't over 'till the fat lady sings, and the hearings aren't over yet, nor do we hear any singing from any fat ladies.

Oh, they don't bring up that even repukes on the 9/11 Commission are now calling on Rice to publicly testify because they think this is a terrible political blunder on the part of the White House

Well, whether they bring it up or not, everyone I know thinks that she's afraid to testify under oath because the oath part is what brought Clinton down, and Rice knows it.

I understand that Ms. Rice was associated with the education field for a while there, but her problem is that she insists on repeating the same thing over and over as if we were a nation of first graders. She does not answer the questions that are asked of her, but merely repeats ad nauseam her prepared statement that we've all heard twenty times before. We are not first graders!

It absolutely infuriates me that this person has time to appear on the talk shows and write columns for distribution to all the newspaper services, but can't spend some time UNDER OATH explaining her points to the American people. Without that oath, she is a liar.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:12 PM
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34. Get that meme going!! Bush=Draft2005
www.bushdraft.com
Tell everyone you know..keep fighting..Im not kidding, people need to know this..I sent this to atrios and bartcop..keep the meme going..the general public needs to know Bush=Draft2005

1994 - The Grand Chessboard by Zbignew Brzezinski compares Central Asia to a
chess game with Russia and China--which must eventually result in an
American "win". Control of the world's oil supply and dominance in the 21st
Century is at stake, as cheap oil ends in the 2010s. Noting that the Central
Asian Republics are infinitely more important than any other region--save
the Mideast--because "an enormous concentration of natural gas and oil
reserves is located in the region, in addition to important minerals,
including gold. Any successful American policy must focus on Eurasia as a
whole and be guided by a Geostrategic design.That puts a premium on maneuver
and manipulation in order to prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition
that could eventually seek to challenge America's primacy."

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465027261/102-5321285-9...



1990s - "Project For A New American Century" and other right-wing
organizations develop strategy for a "uni-polar world" ruled by the United
States with many US bases in the Mideast and Central Asia. Invading Iraq and
controlling the world's oil supply becomes the Neo-Con manifesto.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.html

http://www.presentdanger.org/pdf/frontier/1031neocon.pdf

Article by Will Pitt:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf



September 11, 2001 - The 9-11 Attack. A "War on Terror" is begun by Bush
with the agreement of the Congress. In the mission of the Selective Service,
it is stated that the Volunteer Army is only intended for peacetime. In case
of war, the nation may turn to the Selective Service. That is why it must
always be kept as an option, even if dormant.



January 8, 2002 - On January 8, 2002, President Bush signed the No Child
Left Behind Act, supposedly to provide accountability education policies.
Yet hidden within the 670-page piece of legislation is Section 9528: ".each
local educational agency receiving assistance under this Act shall provide,
on a request made by military recruiters or an institution of higher
education, access to secondary school students names, addresses, and
telephone listings." All schools must comply with this unfunded mandate or
they lose their federal funding. This amounts to legislated blackmail for
student names. The act also says: "A secondary school student or the parent
of the student may request that the student's name, address, and telephone
listing . not be released without prior written parental consent, and the
local educational agency or private school shall notify parents of the
option to make a request and shall comply with any request."

http://www.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/index.html



Early 2003 - Iraq War, 250,000 out of 480,000 active-duty troops deployed,
conquer Iraq within a few weeks. Yet the U.S. has no plan ready for
reconstruction or democracy and Iraqis, happy at liberation from Saddam,
grow sour at the slow pace, the continued lack of electricity and fuel and
the isolated civil control of the CPA. Garner soon replaced by Bremer who is
no better at speeding up Reconstruction, and the resistance grows with
disaffected Iraqis, old regrouped Baathists and new foreign fighters. Except
for the British, substantial foreign troops are impossible, given Bush's
desire to keep total control of Iraq. The lack of diplomacy, planning and
incompetence adds years to the time high US troop levels will be needed to
maintain control of Iraq and rebuild and exploit its oilfields.



Summer 2003 - Philadelphia Draft Board members "unexpectedly" told to
recruit new members for Board vacancies during Summer training. (from Nov. 3
Salon article)

http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2003/11/03/draft/index_np.html



July 25, 2003 - World Net Daily article on plans for the medical draft
(HCPDS). System could draft up to 80,000 doctors, nurses and specialists,
men and women.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33754



September 3, 2003 - The Congressional Budget Office warns that "the Army
lacks sufficient active-duty forces to maintain its current level of nearly
150,000 troops in Iraq beyond next spring (march 2004). "The Army does not
have enough active-duty component forces to simultaneously maintain the
occupation at its current size, limit deployments to one year, and sustain
all of its other commitments"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A16689-2003Sep2?language=prin...



September 23, 2003 - Draft Board Recruitment ad appears on Defense.Link
site. First public ad for Draft Boards in decades. Page scrubbed within a
few days of being noticed by some media in early November. Spokesman says
there is "no plan" to reinstate draft, which must be authorized by Congress.
http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/sss092203.html

http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/draft-boards.htm



October 16, 2003 - Donald Rumsfeld memo leaks, saying Iraq "will be a long,
hard slog". www.usatoday.com/news/washington/ executive/rumsfeld-memo.htm



Nov. 4, 2003 - NY Times article on Army Honor Guard Company B being sent to
MidEast, revealing how thin troops are being stretched to cover the
2004-2005 rotation.

http://villagenews.weblogger.com/stories/storyReader$10007



Nov. 5, 2003 - Toronto Star article quotes Ned Lebow "This (draft board ad)
is significant", Lebow, a presidential scholar at Dartmouth College in New
Hampshire and former professor of strategy at the National War College in
Washington, adds, "What the department of defence is doing is creating the
infrastructure to make the draft a viable option should the administration
wish to go this route."
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout...



Nov. 5, 2003 - Guardian article on Draft Board ad. SSS spokesman Amon said
80% of 11,000 Draft Board slots are vacant. (2,000 local boards, over 8,000
empty seats) http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1077906,00.html



Nov. 12, 2003 - "If President Bush is re-elected, it is likely that he will
reinstate the draft. The war on terrorism will not end in Iraq, but instead
will proceed into countries like Syria and Iran," said Daniel Ellsberg, of
Pentagon Papers fame.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/11122003/news/60246.htm



November, 2003 - Selective Service 2004 "Performance Plan" summarizes how
$28 million will be allocated in 2004 to reduce draft activation time from
current 8 months to just 75 days. Nation-wide Readiness Exercises, testing
the Draft Lottery and examination system, as well as gearing up the Medical
Draft (3.4 million doctors and nurses, men and women age 20-44 are
eligible). Ominously, the Alternative Service delivery system for
Conscientious Objectors is readied for the first time in decades, with the
SSS being funded to compile lists of available Alternative Service jobs for
those who win non-military CO status. All systems will be pushed to reach
95% readiness during 2004.

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html



Nov. 23, 2003 - Boston Globe article: "Army Reserve battling an exodus
War is seen as drain on ranks. The US Army Reserve fell short of its
reenlistment goals this fiscal year, underscoring Pentagon fears that the
protracted conflict in Iraq could cause a crippling exodus from the armed
services."
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2003/11/23/army_... /



Nov. 24, 2003 - NY Times: Army plans for 100,000 troops until 2006 in Iraq.

http://www.iht.com/articles/118775.html



Nov. 26, 2003 - Ron Paul (R-TX) says "Draft likely to be reinstated".
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul144.html



December, 2003 - Draft Board Recruitment ad re-appears on the Selective
Service Home Page with 2 new sentences stressing the ad has "NO connection"
to Iraq. (recently scrubbed and replaced with a NO DRAFT message)
http://www.sss.gov



Dec. 4, 2003 - Ted Rall predicts Bush will "have to bring back the draft."
Notes 8,000 empty Draft Board seats to be filled by Spring 2005. Wonders
about a "February (2005) Surprise" if Bush is re-elected.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=127&ncid=742&e=7&u=/uc...



December 22, 2003 - In an article entitled "Beware of Attempts to Revive
Military Draft," Newsday reports that "the Center on Conscience and War.
executive director, J. E. McNeil. has heard of rumblings, from the
Republican side of the aisle in Congress, about a draft after the election".
The opinion piece worries whether a revived draft "would give this
war-without-end presidency an endless source of warm bodies to pursue its
cowboy foreign policy." Author Keeler also wonders about a "February (2005)
Surprise".

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpkee223594883dec22,0,6735184.s...



December, 2003 - The Selective Service Register magazine talks about the new
Special Skill Draft, a top priority for Director Lewis Brodsky. Like the
Medical Draft, the Special Skills Draft will induct men and women up to age
44 if they have needed DoD skills like computer expertise, engineering or
they are a linguist. As with the health care draftees, no medical deferments
are allowed except for total disability. Anyone with these skills will have
to register with the SSS if Bush is re-elected and asks Congress for this.
Moving quickly!

http://www.sss.gov/PDFs/NovDec2003-Register.pdf (go to P. 6) - from sss.gov
home page



December 29, 2003 - WP article: "Army Stops Many Soldiers From Quitting,
Orders Extend Enlistments to Curtail Troop Shortages" 40,000 soldiers and
Guard put on Stop-Loss. A "Draft Per Se" already exists! With the new
stop-loss orders the Armed Forces actually go 20,000 past 480,000 active
troops, the maximum before Congress steps in.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36979-2003Dec28.html




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