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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:09 PM
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Bush will do ANYTHING to win, because if he loses...
He will be the focus of more investigations, from War Crimes, to corruption, to lying under oath, and much more.

That's why he has to win. He will do whatever is necessary.

The world be damned.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:12 PM
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1. He's got money in the bank and the
media kissing his ass. But we are the ones with the issues that are right for the country.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:14 PM
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2. Sometimes that means nothing...
:(
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Sulldogg Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:16 PM
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3. Are yous erious
Do you think for even a moment he'll be investigaed for war crimes?

Kissinger?
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:23 PM
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4. In January of 49 BC...
...rather than surrender his command of the army in Gaul, and spend the rest of his life under prosecution -- some legitimate, some politically motivated -- Julius Caesar defied an edict of the Senate, crossed the Rubicon river, and entered Italy with some of the military units under his command.

In Caesar's analysis, it was more important for the Senate to respect his dignitas, and (illegally) prolong his command in Gaul than it was for him to respect the authority of the Senate and People of Rome. Spending the rest of his life testifying didn't comport with Caesar's idea of dignitas.

He was declared an outlaw by the Senate for this act of defiance, and plunged the Roman world into a protracted civil war.

Sounds familiar.

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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:33 PM
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6. Hold on just a minute now
Whatever you may think of Gaius, he was a brilliant thinker, an eloquent orator, an accomplished prose stylist, and a brave and honorable soldier. He was a million miles from the corrupt mental defective currently occupying the People's house at 1600 Pennsylvania, in other words. ;-)
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:38 PM
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8. Still, given a choice between accepting being
...'dissed' by the duly constituted government of the Roman state, and starting a civil war, he started a civil war.

Take away the prose style, etc, etc. and you've basically got Franco, with better press.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 08:11 AM
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14. During the "Florida Recount", Cheney spoke of Crossing the Rubicon.
Can't remember the specific action he was referring to. Hearing that phrase from him chilled me to the bone.

What a pity the ruling house has gone from Julius to Caligula in a few short years.




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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:26 PM
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5. No such luck. If he loses, he will simply fly back to the Crawford pigsty.
And, he will live out his days cutting brush and fishing with Pickles by his side. He will be a 'forgotten' pResident.

Sorry, I wish he were tried for all of his crimes, too...but, I doubt it will ever happen. (And, I do agree that the cabal will do anything to get him elected...ANYTHING!)

Just my 2¢.

PartyPooper
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 09:19 AM
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16. It won't be that simple for junior after he loses the 2004 election
junior will be a hatred and scorned and sneered at where ever he goes. His ugly wife and children will be beyond forgiveness. Barbara and daddy will be doing hand springs, cart wheels, and flip flops till they die.

Iraq is just warming up and we already have 600 dead, not counting the missing limbs and brain dead soldiers that run into the thousands. All on a simple little lie? The people will stay pissed for a long time.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:33 PM
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7. As much as I hate to think this, he will not relinquish power.

:grr: He'll either use Diebold to cheat, declare martial law after an attack or threat, or just refuse to give it up using the military to crush any and all of his critics.
He's Caligula, Hitler, ans Stalin rolled into one.
I really HATE to think this way but I just have a terrible sickly feeling about this.
:scared:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:49 PM
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9. I agree
they did not groom this dipshit to be "president" while they thieved and trashed America blind for just four years.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 08:56 AM
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15. I definitely agree
He had to win at all cost in 2000, and the same is very true today. This faction is not finished with their business.

However, to answer the question of what he'll do when he does lose, he will not become an oil baron, a statesman, a consultant, nor will he cut sagebrush on his pseudo-ranch. He will go on a long-term drunken binge, disappearing like he did under TANG, then poppy will promise his little boy the Commissioner of Baseball position just to sober his disgracefulness up, while explaining Georgie's disappearance as 'spending quality quiet time with the family' to his adoring American public.
:puke:
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Striker Davies Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 08:07 AM
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13. I'm afraid you have it right.
This is what I saw happening after less than a year of Bush's rule and the things they were doing.

I returned home to Australia at that time, and I know I will not return to visit the US under any circumstances until after the Junta has crashed and burned, which they must do, 'cos as you say, they will not surrender power. The US faces its very own gotterdammerung sometime in the next 3-10 years.
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Posinegativeman Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:50 PM
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10. Can we have a little more evidence than your statement?
This is the first I have seen this "fact?" stated in this manner.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 12:01 AM
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12. My evidence is all the current investigations...
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 12:06 AM by TruthIsAll
which have been stirring (pre and post-9/11, Iraq,Hiding Presidential/Texas papers, Cheney energy meetings, intel, Medicare, Wilson/Plame, Memogate, Halliburton, Enron, EPA, Coup d'etat in Venezuela/Haiti, Iraq no-bid contracts, Texas/Colorado, Election 2002, redistricting, California recall, BBV, FloridaGate, etc.) and which will only be fully investigated by a Democratic administration and Congress.

So Bush will do whatever it takes to prevent it.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:52 PM
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11. Actually, Truth,
I think he is more likely to be hounded by investigations if he wins. (Sort of like Nixon's second term, or Clinton's.)

If he loses he'll just fade away back into the bottle. I'll bet there's a big part of him that would like nothing better.

But it's not up to him. There are people around him who will definitely do ANYTHING, as you say, whatever is necessary.
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 09:27 AM
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17. this is very dangerous
the most dangerous time is when authoritarian leaders are facing their own downfall. That's when they get wreckless and start taking their whole countries down with them. Hitler taking all of Germany down with him is perhaps an extreme example of how right wingers will destroy everything if they themselves are going down.

When Bush loses, expect really ugly things. The brownshirts will be riled up by Fox News, the propaganda arm of the regime, and they will do everything to disrupt order and stability. the Bushies will start doing things abroad that will cause tons of problems for the incoming Kerry administration.

This is really dangerous. But if they stay in power, it will be much much more dangerous.
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