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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:30 PM
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Ideas wanted: How to beat Arnold
anyone who dismises him is not that bright, at least on the political side of it.

Dems and Repubs have seen his movies and with hundreds of people running he stands out. All you'll probably need is 20% of the 2-3 million or so people that show up to vote so it's VERY likely that he'll win.

If he wins El Chimpo will spend tens of $millions and go there over and over again forcing the Dem winner to spend precious $$$ and time in CA, instead on focusing on other more 50-50 states.

Ideas on how to stop him?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:33 PM
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1. arnold 's father was a nazi in austria...a bonafide nazi
someone on DU has the link to the story
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:35 PM
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2. Wrong Path!
We have to paint Arnold as the Pro Corporate ENRON Type that he is. He is bonafide pro free ENRON STYLE market.
It will be like having Kenny Boy Lay as Governor!!!
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:35 PM
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3. That fits right in with Prescott Bush.

He helped finance the Nazis.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:35 PM
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4. how many people will hold that against him?
he looks like such a nice guy in the movies...
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BushHasGotToGo Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:36 PM
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7. That's corruption of blood. Not cool.
n/t
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:37 PM
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9. so what?
he's running, not his father.

Davis will hurt him badly by showing pics of Arnold partying, with hookers, posing nude.... and very likely there are older gay men out there who will testify as to how Arnold earned his keep in his early years.

It's gonna be ugly.
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abbyhoffman Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:44 PM
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16. Not really Arnold is not Anti gay
and if any gays came out & said Arnold had been "with" them it would not lose him any votes Hell it might gain him some Votes
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prez_sux Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:48 AM
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38. so, if my parents voted for bush, you'd hold that against me?
if you try and attack him based on his dad, we will lose.
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hamsterhuey Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:39 PM
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12. when was arnold's father running?
by your logic, almost all germans should be disqualified from holding public office. and maybe japanese.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 01:30 AM
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40. Smearing the son for the sins of the father is not a liberal value
Arnold's strongest atraction is that very few people in California like Governor Davis, and that includes a significant number Democrats. Arnold is also a moderate Republican, to the left of Lieberman on many issues, and he is far more palatable than that crypto-nazi Darrell Issa. Arnold's own story as a former immigrant that came to America with no money in his pockers, and made it big, will resonate with many Californians.

I personally think that DNC Chair Terry McCauliff made a grievious tactical error when he demanded that all Democratic office holders backed Davis. Having Feinstein decide not to run today leaves the Democrats with no candidate to field as an alternative to Davis. Davis is not going to win the recall election!

There are 3 days left for a Democrat to file. I suggest that if you want a chance to keep the Governorship in Democratic hands, that you put another name in the hopper. I repeat, Davis will not survive the recall. Davis will not even carry a majority of Democratic voters.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:36 PM
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5. Shove the picture with his dick flapping
in all the fundies' faces.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:46 PM
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18. probably not much to show
he can say "natural" all he wants; I am not buying it.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:36 PM
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6. Board with a nail through it...
Just kidding.

just put him in a debate with Arianna Huffington.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:49 PM
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22. Him and Arianna in a debate?
SUBTITLES anyone?
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:50 PM
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24. No kidding..
LOL
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:37 PM
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hmmmm
Have Davis resign days before the election
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abbyhoffman Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:49 PM
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23. Does not matter
If Davis resigns The election goes on!! The Lt. Gov does not move up
Its not like the VP.. & all but one of the Ca Supreme court have been appointed by repukes remember Davis is only the 4th democrat Gov in Ca in the last 100 years & there was 20 years between him and the last Jerry Brown
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:37 PM
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8. Ask him if he'll take a drug test
There was an unauthorized biography done on him. There was lots of dirt in it.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:37 PM
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10. i think start with at least 2 things....
1) the public must be reminded by davis and the press that he and riorden had secret meetings with ken lay before the energy attack.


2) it must be brought out how, by jumping in the race, that he is in favor of and supports an ultra right wing coup to mess with elections.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:38 PM
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11. Get Latino voters to the polls. They're not star struck and are still
pissed at the Republican party about Prop. 187 from a few years back.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:41 PM
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14. If that is so then...
we must get Bustamonte to run in place of Davis! The polls say that he would win the recall replacement vote.
Besides, he does not have the crap on him that Davis has. Being Hispanic he can also get the Latino vote out next year for the Dems!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:32 AM
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48.  I agree, if the Dems do field a candidate, it should be Bustamonte.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:40 PM
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13. Deport him!
Take his Visa and Master Charge!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:43 PM
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15. arnold is the first democratic mole into the rethuglican party
Edited on Wed Aug-06-03 09:44 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
he worshiped JFK and the kennedy's long before he came to america and it was in his plans to be a kennedy even then...read his biography and watch it....he is our mole...ssssssssssh
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Sirius_on Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:14 PM
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33. Yea and to top it off....HE LOVES BUSH!
Dont forget that.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:45 PM
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17. Ass-grabber, Bad ticker, Midnight toker
Arnold's been through all this before. But I'm not sure whether it will hurt him much. Californians are so starved for any ray of hope or excitement, I don't see how he can lose. It may be better to coopt him than try to beat him. What's in a name. Other than the fact that he calls himself a Republican, he's about as much a Republican as Davis is a Democrat.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:47 PM
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20. Principle is at stake here!
If the Repugs get away with it here then Jim Doyle will be next. We must fight them all the way. Arnold and all the other Rethugs must not get into the Governors office!
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:47 PM
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19. This is simple
Leon Panetta should opt in to the Governor's race for the sake of all California. He should win since it is a stright plurality vote

then

a) Immediately resign and allow Crus Bustamante to assume the office

or

b) Become a caretaker for the rest of the 2003 and on to about August 2004 when he resigns to become the VP nod for President.


OR

Arnold's candidacy maya be the best thing for Davis....If any polling shows arnold leading the pack Many mnay people will vote for Favis on the Recall vote solely becuase they are scared to Death or Arnold.

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:53 PM
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25. just remember da mayor has threatened a recall if the pukes win
Edited on Wed Aug-06-03 09:53 PM by mitchtv
and12% of the electorate will be easy to sign up if they win with less than 20% , and less than Davis.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:57 PM
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28. Which mayor?
Willie?
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jagguy Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:48 PM
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21. I thought he was going to pass... something change ?
?
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:56 PM
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27. yeah Feinstein blinked
My guess is that there has been a game of chicken going on for the last week and Riordan and he were in cahoots. Feistein JUmps in and Riordan runs... Feinsteins stays away and Arnold jumps in.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 01:39 AM
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41. ahhhhh
Interesting, very interesting!!!!
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Shakeydave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 09:54 PM
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26. How to beat Arnold?
Use your thumb and index finger, that should do the trick! Don't forget the lube! Sorry! Callow and shallow are my forte'!
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Yentatelaventa Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:04 PM
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29. Put forth a better candidate
duh.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:08 PM
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31. RUN LEON RUN
RUN LEON RUN
RUN LEON RUN
RUN LEON RUN
RUN LEON RUN
RUN LEON RUN
RUN LEON RUN
RUN LEON RUN
RUN LEON RUN
RUN LEON RUN
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:07 PM
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30. Well, he's a whoremonger and incompetent
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:12 PM
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32. maybe detrimental,
Surprised to recently see his name as a "Trustee" on the board of the George HW Bush Presidential Library.
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:22 PM
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34. Colossal musculatua will not help California mess
Let him win. Praying to Krom will not fix their budget dilemma. When it turns out that Ahnold can't improve the situation there even as good as Davis could have, the real culprits - Enron - will finally be blamed, along with their Republican cronies everywhere.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:23 PM
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35. planet hollywood
Edited on Wed Aug-06-03 10:24 PM by ezmojason
I thought he was an owner of the "Planet Hollywood"
resturant chain the lost big money then went
bankrupt.

I think this is the sharpest stick around if true.

Dope smokeing and whore-mongering will probable
bring him some votes but he will have to split
these voters with Larry Flint.



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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:40 AM
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36. A good Democratic candidate
and lots of Republican candidates to split the vote.

Davis is screwed if he goes negative. He might knock out Arnold, but it will just drive up his yes to recall votes.
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prez_sux Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:46 AM
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37. develop a new type of cyborg called a T-1000...
... and stay the hell out of metal manufacturing plants.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:49 AM
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39. hydraulic press
takes the starch right out of that model

Go investigative reporters!
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devarsi Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 01:58 AM
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42. PLAY THIS WAV FILE
with a little creative editing, it could be most usefull :evilgrin:

http://www.wanderingplanet.com/bk/whatis.wav
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caribmon Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:23 AM
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45. Playing with Arnie soundboards is really FUN!
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:13 AM
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43. McClintock vs. Arnie is the key.
Abortion... gays... immigrants. Arnie's no conservative. We must pound this in the ground to the right. It's true. Bustamante can win over the GOPers. Also, the recall can be defeated itself.
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caribmon Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:19 AM
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44. Catch him on Tape stuffing carrot in Woman's butt...
SCHWARZENEGGER CAUGHT ON TAPE STUFFING CARROT IN

NAKED WOMAN'S BUTT

VIDEO WAS MADE 6 YEARS AFTER HE AND MARIA SHRIVER STARTED DATING

This Is Not A Joke - You Can Order The Video For Yourself

by Betsy R. Vasquez

JULY 25, 2003 – It is already common knowledge that Arnold Schwarzenegger – who is reportedly considering a run for California Governor – is recorded on the video “Pumping Iron” (1977) smoking marijuana. On the video, by his own admission (as reported by MSNBC,) he also makes up a fake story about the circumstances of his father’s death, stooping to whatever level necessary to gain the weight lifting title he is competing for.



Well, those two things seem to be the tame side of Arnold.



Little known here in America is a video titled, “Carnival in Rio,” which was a documentary shot in 1983 - six years after he had started dating his now wife Maria Shriver - that Arnold was the host of. In the video, according to the Brazilian magazine Istoé, he, “tore his costume in the middle of a group of naked women and, with one of them; he tried to place a carrot between her butt cheeks.”



Don’t believe it? Well, why not purchase a copy of the still available video and see for yourself?

http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i7arnold.htm



--------------------------------

Here's a nice review at amazon.com

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Arnold's Intelligence Truely Shines (sarcasm), July 4, 2003
Reviewer: A viewer from Southern Station 1482, Antarctica
In another of Playboy Entertainment's Shining Achievements, California Governor Candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger travels to the lovely Rio de Janerio for the annual Carnival.

A movie I'm sure his campaign manager wishes he never made, this wonderful piece of filmography shows a truer side of Arnold; apparently under the makeup and fake accent, the Austrian bodybuilder really is an incredibly intelligent and upstanding member of the "American Community". He tours the exotic Rio with an unnamed fellow bodybuilder, teaches a beautiful girl who really looks and acts NOTHING like a hooker English ("biting", "no biting"), and fully conforms to the rigourous anti-drinking and anti-covorting with topless dancers policies that a candiate for Governor of the most populous state in the U.S. should.

This stunning, achievement, in Film Making, History should be CELEBRATED as the pinnacle of a great actor and a soon to be wonderful Governor's career.

Every voter in California should watch this film, so when they vote for Schwarzenegger they know they've made the right choice. 5-stars--it's really a laugh a minute, and a must-have at the college movie night.....


Was this review helpful to you?



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6302406587/ref=ase_themoderatein-20/002-2456320-6200823?v=glance&s=video
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devarsi Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:25 AM
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46. I actually thought I had seen it all
but apparently not, huh?

Your post should get some type of recognition for most bizarre title, if not content.

:evilgrin:
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caribmon Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:36 AM
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50. Should I hang this out on it's own?
IN GD so it gets a few giggles?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:44 AM
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52. I think it's worth more than a few giggles.
n/t
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devarsi Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:50 AM
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54. Oh Absolutely
Even in the glut of Arnold threads, yours would stand tall...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:50 AM
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53. And what did Clinton tell Monica to stick in her you-know-what?
We have sunk to the same level as the Republicans!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:30 AM
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47. Subject him to an honest debate
then we'll see if Arnie is more like George W. Bush

He didn't do that well at the press conference.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:33 AM
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49. Arnold has a lot of compromising photos out there
If only somebody collected nude gay sex photos and had tons of money and a porno magazaine to publish them in. If only we could convince that person to actually run for governor so it wouldn't look like Davis was doing it. If only someone had invented Larry Flynt. But someone did. It's going to be very, very ugly.

And Arnold is not a nazi, was never a nazi, and has donated heavily to holocaust museums, etc. So don't smear him on what his father did.

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Swalker24 Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:42 AM
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51. Ask him how
Gray Davis is at fault for the the chimp in chief cutting taxes and as a result funding to the state. Ask him how Davis was at fault for Enron running up the price of electricity. Ask him how the policies of the GOP would help the average voter. Hell ask him if he becomes governor if he will follow the party line and try and crack down on those immigrants that take away jobs from people born in the US. Basically to defeat Arnold force him to explain the policies that the GOP actually stand for. If he tries the "compassionite conservative" angle point out the retard in chief's record of compassion, you know things like mocking people begging for mercy on death row.
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 03:26 AM
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55. Boycott Terminator 3 ...
Hit him in the pocket book.
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