Here is my problem with this whole recall election

[WindRavenX]

This isn't even about Arnold, a terrible canidate to inherit a state in desperate need of political leadership. This is about the double standards and hypocrisy that we've seen come out of the Republicans year after year.
In the first few months after the disputed election of 2000 was decided, the Republicans harped and snapped at the liberals to "get over it" and accept George W. Bush as the president. They took great offense that the Democrats, they said, were breaking rules to try to get Gore's votes counted in Florida and give Gore the White House. "Rules are rules" they said, as they happily counted illegal ballots for Bush, but not for Gore.
Now here we are 3 years later. Gray Davis, an unpopular politician, won reelection last year in California, a state nearly crippled by a massive budget crisis no doubt brought on by Enron and Bush's economy. Now the Republicans are bending rules and doing dirty deeds to see Gray Davis kicked out of office for doing nothing other than being an unpopular man in office. This is all schemes to win California for Bush in 2004.
They triggered this special election with a mere 1.6 million signatures of registered voters of CA, a very small minority of the population.
And so I am outraged at this: the Republicans told us to "get over" the result of the 2000 election. They haven't gotten over the fact that Davis won fair and square last year and are hell bent on getting their way even if it means wasting valuble time and money of a state that has literally no money to pay for teacher's salaries. This is about Republicans thinking they can make the rules and then break them when things don't get their way. This isn't about Arnold, this is about the slime of the Republican machine that we have to face in 2004.
/rant

[JohnKleeb]

1. Can I just say something

Raven you nailed it simply.

[WindRavenX]

2. Thank you- I've been in a rage all evening

This is nothing but BS, pure and simple.
Don't like Davis? Don't vote for him in the next election. Play by the damn rules.
It's not like Davis murdered anyone, and quite frankly, I highly doubt that anyone else in his position would've made CA come out any better than he has. If anything, by keeping CA at least functioning is his strong point. Ride out the bad economy. The person who gets CA, be it Gray or that putz Arnold, is not going to be a magical cure for CA. CA is going to recover when the economy at large recovers, regardless of who is at the helm.

[JohnKleeb]

3. you dont have to thank me its so obvious

It is bullshit and I cant believe how often I see a dumbass with an Arnold sign in the paper, yeah Arnold is gonna repair the ecomomy, a professional actor who doesnt know jack about politics is gonna do better than a lifelong politcan.
This is resume
Governor, State of California, 1998-present
Lieutenant Governor, State of California, 1995-1998.
Controller, State of California, 1986-1994
Representative, California State Assembly, 1982-1986
Chief of Staff, Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr., 1974-1982
Finance Director, Tom Bradley for Mayor of Los Angeles, 1972-1974.
Lemme get Arnold's "resume"
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Schwarzenegger,%20Arnold
Gee I would want Arnold if I want an action movie star but I think I would want Gray running my state.

[WindRavenX]

7. And don't call Ahnold an actor- he isn't

I wouldn't even want him to be an actor in my movie...

[pbeal]

4. My problem

All during the run up to GW2 when ever a celebrity spoke out against it every repundit would spout off on how actors and actresses shouldn't talk about politics because they don't have any experience with it. Now for the past 2 days these same repundits have been getting all wet like G. Liddy and C. Matthews over G.W's bulging flight suit. New heights of republican hypocrisy.

[WindRavenX]

5. Another great point of how the rules don't apply to Democrats and Libs

Oh, I see, if you're a CONSERVATIVE actor or celebrity you can flap your yap about how abortion is murder and how such a great hero GWB is, but damn, if you're a liberal and you say Bush may not be so great for our country then you'd best shut the hell up. :eyes: :eyes:
God, the hypocrisy is gonna slay me one of these days...

[MoonGod]

6. Yup... Republicans have become the win-at-all-costs party...

... principles don't matter to them any more. Values are meaningless. Freedom... who cares? The well-being of the nation, states, and localities? Whatever.

All that matters to them is winning.

They serve to Organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force--to put in the place of the delegated will of the Nation, the will of a party; often a small but artful and enterprizing minority of the Community ... they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the Power of the People, & to usurp for themselves the reins of Government; destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion

— George Washington, Farewell Address