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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:48 PM
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Why doesn't Kerry have a 50 point lead on Bush? n/t
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:49 PM
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1. BAAAAA!!
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:53 PM
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3. Its beyond explaining
I tend to think its from another dimension. Some twilight zone where people only see what they want to see and filter out the bad stuff.

Hey... that sounds like a republican , dont it?
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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:29 PM
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7. no comment. n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 09:51 PM
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2. Money talks... bullshit walks....
:shrug:
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batt188 Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:02 PM
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4. I'm confused
the strangest thing happened to me at work today. I printed out a copy John Kerry's speech and before I could go get it I overheard a fellow worker of mine say- "oh- John Kerry for president" ---(in a sarcastic tone--. I asked if she would mine bringing it to me- I sit about 4 feet from the printer in a cube. She replied I would rather not (again in a sarcastic tone)
This is a co-worker that I get along with...what the fu-- is going on--- is this like invasion of the body snatchers??


:wtf:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:05 PM
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5. I know this is a spoof thread, but give it time
By November it just might get close to that.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:05 PM
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6. Because he has an 86-point lead on Bush*.
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leftistagitator Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:37 PM
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8. Several reasons
1. A third of this country is religiously insane and believes that * is God's instrument to start the holy war that leads to the reincarnation of Jesus. So the maximum amount Kerry could be ahead by is 33%.

2. It's early in the race and many people just aren't paying attention yet.

3. * has spent over 50 million dollars on ads, which is all the exposure that some people have. I have yet to see 1 Kerry ad in Dallas, but I've seen dozens for *.

4. Nearly half of the country just doesn't have a clue. They don't read the newspaper, or watch news programs, or read internet news sources. They just don't care about anything at all. How else can you explain the half of the country that thought we'd already found WMDs in Iraq. As they don't care enough to even attempt to learn about whats going on, the opinions they hold never face the scrutiny of the truth the way an informed persons do.

Problem 1 we're stuck with, 2 and 3 will be resolved when the election gets closer, and 4 can only be fixed by convincing people 1 by 1 that they need to give a damn about their country.
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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:44 PM
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11. maher said, "it's the brilliance of our marketing combined with...
the stupidity of our people." I think he's right.
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:40 PM
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9. Ratings...
The "news" services are using creative polling to make the race look close. A close race is better for their ratings.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:43 PM
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10. We have a winner!
:) You're absolutely right
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:46 PM
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12. Because you believe what the polls say
Don't you get it? The Bush regime HAS to create the illusion that the race is "close" so it will be easier for them to steal it again!

:headbang:
rocknation
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:48 PM
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13. god, greed and golly-gee-whiz
Folks want to "be a part of" the cool ruling elite, even though they're reviled by it and precluded from being a part of it by its very policies.

Change and nuance are terrifying.

You know, the usual...
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Solidarity Donating Member (518 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:56 PM
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14. I'll Guess

Is this a quiz?

OK

I'll guess at the right answer. Because he sounds too much like George Bush on Iraq, the Patriot Act, NAFTA, etc.,?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 10:58 PM
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15. God hasn't endorsed him yet
He's still in the Bush camp.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:14 PM
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16. Interesting question.
I had a brief discussion with one of the teachers at my daughter's school today. I told him Kerry gave a speech today and did a really good job. I figured he's probably leaning Bush.

Long story short, he said the reason he's more with Bush (at this point) is that he knows what to expect from Bush. With Kerry, he's just not sure and that scares him. Then he started trying to tell me about Kerry's tax plan and how this year he got a refund, but if Kerry gets in he'll have to pay and alot of people will have to pay more and that will hurt us.

He wasn't listening to me about the tax thing, and then he said to me that Kerry also has contraditions like being Catholic and pro-choice...that if we give Bush four more years to really put is policies in place we'll all be better off. He followed with that he, himself, doesn't see a contradiction and that he's pro-choice but understands how others see it as a contradiction. (Told him I don't see a contradiction at all.)

But with time running short, I honed in on the four more years thing and told him when I look at the big picture of what Bush has done that's what literally scares the shit out of me. I said it's the administration, the people he has surrounded himself with that are truly scary. (A light turned on for him). He admitted he really didn't know very much about all of it, but when I said that he could think of a few people around Bush that really scare him.

That's when I said..."That's the thing really. Bush is nothing without them but it's the PEOPLE that he has chosen to surround himself with."

He said he hadn't looked at it that way and that... *drumroll*
I was right! There was definite skepticism from that point in his opinion about Bush and I know this man will now go and search out facts. :)
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:23 PM
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17. it's ralphs fault.
:eyes:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:37 PM
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18. I have an idea on that.
When a baby is born, there is a bonding that goes on between the infant and it's mother. No matter what his actions on 9/11 were, Chimpy got the bounce by being prez on that day. It's kinda like that bonding between mother and child. There are still people who cannot bring themselves to believe that he did not have this country's best interests at heart.
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uncertainty1999 Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:38 PM
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19. "John Kerry" is not yet a household name
Seriously - when I spoke with my dad last weekend, he could not even tell me Kerry's first name! I was shocked (being a political junkie and all), but he's waiting until closer to the election to start paying attention.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 11:45 PM
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20. Chris Matthews was asked that by Katie Couric this morning
His response was that its way too early for some people to abandon a sitting President. They will hang with the incumbent a long time even if they have mounting questions.
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Only Me Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:24 AM
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21. I have a couple of theories too...
comment first: I got a free copy of a newspaper that delivers in my area, an enticement to get you to subscribe.
Well they can keep it. It is one of the largest local papers in my little tri-state corner of the map. I was nothing but a Rep Rag.

Some articles were just lies. The editorial section subliminally says only write to us if your right wing. I was so steamed I trashed it after three pages. They use their paper to publicly, daily, brainwash the voters.

Now that I vented that...Theory...

The conservative Christian vote. Conservative and Fundamental Christians are big voters. He not only considers himself one, he consults them regularly. 71% (Frontline) of the Conservative Christians said they felt that the world shunned them and they felt bad feelings toward the people for the decline of the world. They feel persecuted because of their religious beliefs. They feel they need to change the world. Bush is their Marter. (Does this sound familiar?) They feel he shunned the world and declared his allegiance and they are desperate for that kind of leader to bring some form of legitimacy back to their warped comprehension of Christianity. The same 71% said they would vote for him right now if they elections were today.

He is using his very unchristian power, to gather his voters. He appeases them and in return he gets their vote. And their alot of them out there.

SOooo this is the kinda guy they want us to have...Great Choice huh.

Unstable or Unstable.

Comments from Bush Friend Doug Wead on Frontline:
"It's not something to be afraid of. George W. Bush is someone to be afraid of without his faith. His faith has brought more of a sensitivity, a feminine side, to his personality that was needed. ...

George Bush's faith is the good angel of his personality. Without that faith, he is so hard, he is so decisive, he is so quick, he is so brutal, he is so unapologetic, so self-righteous. "I'm right, this is the right way to go, we're going."



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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 12:44 AM
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22. George Bush is Hero of the Stupid
Explains part of it.
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Failure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 08:23 AM
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23. also the hero of the warmongers, hatemongers...
and that would be the rest of it.

n/t


failure.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 08:25 AM
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24. He has at least that.
The corporate whore pollsters just won't let us know about it. Those "unscientific" polls on CNN and MSNBC, etc., which aren't manipulated by pollsters, are probably more representative of voter sentiment.
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