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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 06:57 PM
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The Cult That's Running the Country, By Joseph Wilson
Edited on Mon May-03-04 06:59 PM by G_j

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/050404B.shtml

The Cult That's Running the Country
By Joseph Wilson
Salon.com

Monday 03 May 2004

Joseph Wilson blasts the secretive neoconservative cabal that plunged America into a disastrous war, in this excerpt from his new book.
After making the Sunday rites of passage on the big television news shows, I began cutting back such appearances. I had answered all the questions that were being asked and had nothing else to offer on the subject. It did not matter, as the Right renewed its attack: I was a publicity seeker. The president lied and the White House had attacked my wife, but I was a publicity seeker. Of course, if it was publicity I was after, my campaign was a flop. Prior to Novak's article, I was still known as the last American diplomat to have met with Saddam Hussein. Now I had become Mr. Valerie Plame. "Welcome to the Dennis Thatcher club," a husband of a well-known woman said to me, a reference to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's spouse.

The press coverage was very positive toward Valerie and me. So was the outpouring of support from across the political spectrum, from Pat Buchanan on the right to Jesse Jackson on the left. Serious people understood what had happened. It was only a small cadre of right-wing zealots and the White House itself that continued trying to spin the story and make of it something it was not. I was particularly offended when President Bush, asked about the leak on October 7, claimed, "I want to know the truth." However, eager to place the responsibility upon journalists rather than shoulder it himself, he added, "You tell me: How many sources have you had that's leaked information, that you've exposed or had been exposed?" He added, "Probably none," making it clear that his question had been only a rhetorical one. Bush capped off his comments that day with a statement that infuriated me, and many people whom I later heard from: "This is a large administration and there's a lot of senior officials ... I have no idea whether we'll find out who the leaker is, partially because, in all due respect to your profession, you do a very good job of protecting the leakers." His lack of genuine concern stunned and disappointed me.

More than four years earlier, on April 26, 1999, the president's father, not only a former president but also former Director of CIA, spoke at the ceremonial rededication of CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, which would be known henceforth as the George Bush Center for Intelligence. Referring to those who would expose clandestine officers, he said, "I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors." For his son to pretend he was a mere onlooker in his own administration was dishonorable.

As of this writing, in February 2004, two years have passed since I traveled to Niger. Who could have imagined that journey would lead through such a maze of intrigue, so much deceit on the part of a presidential administration, and such enormous harm to my wife? It has been an existential rollercoaster ride, and the wheels have not yet come to rest. Even so, there are lessons the experience has taught me, and some lessons that I believe the country can learn, from this tragic war of choice that should never have been undertaken, and from the unprecedented disclosure that my wife was an undercover CIA officer.
..more..
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Wilson's Turn
by Ambassador Joseph Wilson

An interview with the diplomat who exposed the truth behind the White House allegation that Iraq sought to purchase significant quantities of uranium from Niger:

"...I responded to what I felt was a lie in the President's State of the Union Address that needed to be corrected. I did my civic duty and held my government to account for statements it had made. The government acknowledged that the 16 words about Iraq purchasing uranium from Niger did not rise to the level of inclusion in the State of the Union Address. And then the administration went out to savage my family and myself.

"... what I have to say to people who might come forward is that one of the great things about our democracy is freedom of the press. And if we don't exercise that, we run the risk of losing it. One must always keep one's government under control. The government serves the people-not vice-versa."

http://tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10327


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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 07:06 PM
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1. Wow!
One thing about the crap coming out of the WH is all the wonderful books coming out. Has there ever been a time in history when so many writers stepped up to the plate?
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 07:22 PM
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3. I don't know if you were around for Watergate, Sequoia
But back then we had a responsible House & Senate that took the lead against that "Lie House". Today, it is the duty of the insider patriots that are churning out the truths that real DEMOCRACY requires..... However, "You can lead a sheepeople to a book, but you can't make 'em read".
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 07:21 PM
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2. the truth shall set us free!
It looks like you're as excited about Wilson as I am -- I really appreciate all that you're finding and posting about him today.

I'm discouraged that he's not getting on the BIG Tv programs, and hope that all he's saying really gets out. People really need to hear everything that he is saying!

I really want this man to be the one who blows the lid off the Blight House.'

Kanary
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:02 PM
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4. Wilson's going to be on MSNBC's "Countdown with Keith Olberman"
tomorrow night (8pm EST and again at 11 I think). I just saw the ads for it.

Didn't his book come out April 30? I remember looking forward eagerly to it. I guess all the Iraq news pushed him off the page for a few days, but maybe he'll get more interviews this week and next. None of the Iraq news is going away soon, but anyway the book will get further bursts of interest as the case progresses. I try to catch any show he's on--very, very articulate, and unafraid to tell the truth.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:17 PM
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7. I had from the earlier schedule that it was Lester Holt
Thanks for your correction!

Did you see that schedule?

I don't get any of these channels, and scrambling like crazy, trying to find friends who can tape for me. :)

Kanary
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:23 PM
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10. No, I don't have a schedule. Keith just announced it.
Edited on Mon May-03-04 08:40 PM by berry
I came back to add that I thought he was going to be on Larry King tonight (and your schedule below confirms I wasn't delusional), but he must have been preempted. It's about the released hostage. Don't know when it will be rescheduled.

What I'm going crazy with now is to find out if/when c-span will rebroadcast the Wilson Center forum on North Korea with Selig Harrison. I saw the last part and it was INCREDIBLE. I really want to tape it. So I know what you mean!

Oops. Back again. Wilson IS on Larry King tonight. Maybe just the first part was cut? Anyway, this reairs too. At 12m or 1am I think. Sorry to sow confusion.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:19 PM
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9. Here's the schedule that was posted on another thread
Monday, May 3
NBC's The Today Show
CNN's Larry King Live


Tuesday, May 4


CNN's American Morning
Air America Radio, O'Franken Factor


PBS Charlie Rose Show
Comedy Central's Daily Show with John Stewart


Wednesday, May 5
Air America Radio, Morning Sedition Show


NPR's Diane Rehm Show (WAMU-AM, Washington, D.C.)
MSNBC's Lester Holt Live


Thursday, May 6
C-SPAN Washington Journal


NPR's Morning Edition


CNBC Capital Report


Friday, May 7
WNYC-AM Brian Lehrer Show (New York, NY)


Sunday, May 9
CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer


Monday, May 10
NPR's Fresh Air with Terry Gross


Tuesday, May 11
KMOX-AM The Morning Meeting with Charles Brennan (St. Louis, MO)


XM Channel 169-The Power, Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
simulcast to WOL-1450-AM and WOLB-1010-AM (Baltimore, MD)


Wednesday, May 12
NPR's The Connection with Dick Gordon


Thursday, May 20
KALW-FM, Your Call with laura Flanders (San Francisco, CA)


Monday, May 24
KCET TV Tavis Smiley (Los Angeles, CA)


Monday, May 31
KIRO-AM Mike Webb Show (Seattle, WA)


Monday, June 7
Focal Point with Mimi Geerges
(WEBR in Virginia / WRBG in So. Deleware / WYRC in West Virginia)


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EastofEdon Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 06:37 AM
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17. thats very helpful
:-)
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:05 PM
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5. I'm holding out for an indictment
but I know I shouldn't hold my breath.

Late September? Nah, I must be dreaming of justice again.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:08 PM
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6. Heh.... isn't he the one who talked about them being "frog walked"
out of the Blight House?

He must be sooo frustrated with the whole mess!

Kanary
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:31 AM
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16. I think he is being given less visibility
because what he is talking about is clearly treason.

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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:21 AM
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29. He will be on Lou Dobbs
tonight and was on Larry King last night.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:19 PM
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8. The Truth Out article was very good
Joe Wilson will be on Washington Journal Thursday morning.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:27 PM
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11. Indictements!!!!
Real soon, let's hope!
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:39 PM
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12. That's C-Span 1, right?
Thanks for the heads up!

Dunno how I'm gonna get all this recorded, but... I'm tryin' :)

Kanary
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:58 PM
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13. "The George Bush Center for Intelligence" ? WTF?
Can you spell oxy-moran ?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:25 AM
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14. no I think that term is reserved for Rush n/t
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:29 AM
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15. It's a Cult ...n/t
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ufansdilligaf Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 07:19 AM
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18. I wish Wilson would appear non-partisan
Selling himself as anti-republican limits his credibility with fence sitters and swing voters. His using politics to sell his message hurts Dems.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 07:43 AM
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20. Wilson was excellent on Larry King show
I thought Wilson did a great job putting to rest the partisanship charges on Larry King last night. He explained that he was a political appointee of the first president Bush and felt very comfortable with that administration and their national security position in stark contrast with the current administration that is so driven by their own political agenda that they are willing to subvert truth and betray CIA agents at the expense of the national good.

That was a great show IMO- the Democratic rep nailed it by voicing her concerns that incompetent baby Bush won't be any more effective in dealing with the torture situation than he has been in getting to the bottom of the leaker's identity.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 08:01 AM
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22. Bush could have brought the leaker to justice
from day one. Its almost impossible to imagine he doesn't know who it is. He supposedly demands loyalty from those in his administration above all else. What what stopping him from demanding answers?

Helen Thomas said on Democracy Now that she believed most of those in the WH press corps even know who it is.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 07:47 AM
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21. Sorry but I see no evidence of
politics in his "message".
I think you've been listening to the Republican dis-information campaign.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 09:32 AM
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25. He does NOT use politics. Bushies outed his wife as a CIA agent.
He is acting as a patriot noting the treasonous behavior of a White House that that sought revenge FOR THEIR OWN POLITICAL ENDS.

Wilson acts as a FOREIGN POLICY advisor to the Kerry campaign. He is NOT a political advisor. Do you not UNDERSTAND the difference?
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:24 AM
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30. His background is interesting
I heard him speak in New York on Sunday night and he seemed eager to dispel the idea that he is a very partisan Democrat, even though he is making appearances on behalf of the Kerry campaign. He said his family is largely Republican (but some are not supporting Bush this year), and so are most in his circle of friends. He spoke respectfully of the Republicans he worked under in the first Bush admin. Actually, he spoke very little about the campaign in this talk, but then it was mostly a book-selling event. From what I've seen I'd say he'd be pretty appealing to the fence-sitters.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 07:40 AM
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19. Can I just say this?
Bush is a turd.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 08:46 AM
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23. You can say that all day long!
Edited on Tue May-04-04 08:46 AM by JHB
n/t
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 08:56 AM
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24. I think Bush knows the leak came from Cheney's
office and he's "scared" to touch it. After his and Cheney's appearance together for the 9/11 commission last week, it is becoming increasingly clear that Cheney runs the show and Bush is a prop.

Bush seems to be in that position (President) only at the "convience" of Cheney's crew. I remember Karen Hughes mentioning in an interview back in 2000 that when Bush was approached to run for President that she and Bush literally looked at each other and laughed! Not a repsonse from a man who was serious about being President. Now we know why they laughed---incompetence.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 09:36 AM
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26. I am positive it is BUSH who had Rove out the agent.
Edited on Tue May-04-04 09:39 AM by blm
Bush is a very vengeful person. He has used revenge his entire life. That is why so many fear him. He is NOT the nice guy put forth by his imagemakers.

He was a political dirty trickster from way back. That was his job in the campaigns he worked. Bush, Atwater and Rove were at this game TOGETHER throughout the 70s and 80s. People forget that Bush was a political strategist for so long. The press conveniently doesn't remind them.

Bush is like his bitter mother. Even Nixon said that noone hates like Barbara Bush hates.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 09:39 AM
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27. Cult is a very good description, I hope the term sticks!
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:08 AM
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28. Wilson's book site w/ up to date schedule etc
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