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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:30 PM
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if you had those photos, and could choose whether or not they ever got out
Edited on Tue May-04-04 02:47 PM by enki23
what would you have done? would you expose this particular instance of depravity to the world, knowing that the only way to keep these things from happening is transparency and accountability? or would you burn them, knowing they would be very likely to increase the intensity of ill-will toward americans, and knowing they would likely lead to an increase in attacks against americans and their allies in the near future?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:31 PM
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1. you have to show them
Anyone with a shred of journalistic integrity would publish them.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:32 PM
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2. release them
because the people who did this must be brought to justice, and it must serve as a warning to those who think of doing so in the future.

The release of the photos is not the cause of ill-will toward Americans. It is the events documented by those photos that cause the ill-will.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:35 PM
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3. The big question is . . .
How long has bush and Rumsfeld known about all of this as well as all the rapes of Iraqi women by American soldiers. The photos are from November, so bush must have known for quite sometime . . . Is there going to be a bipartisan investigation into this?

Shouldn't bush be held accountable for this as commander in chief or does he pass the buck.



Blood is on the hands of our Lady MacBush.

Out damn bush! Out, I say!!

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:37 PM
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4. Either our actions are right or we are wrong
If we cannot represent ourselves in the best or face the consequences of our actions openly then we have lost. War is not fluffy. War is not fun. It is the total break down of civility. It is the worst thing we can do. If the cause of such hostility does not meet the cost then it is not warranted. If we are no improvement of their plight then it is not warranted.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:50 PM
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5. i should have added (before i got distracted)
that publishing them would lead to increased attacks against americans, but *also to increased retaliations by america which would harm people who were likewise innocent of any of this.*


i'm a utilitarian, essentially. what is right, in any given situation, is what causes the least harm (or does the most good.) i'm not sure what i would have done. i would probably have released them. probably.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:52 PM
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6. Or you could spin them
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:55 PM
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7. make billboard signs out of them
along with the pictures of 600 dead civilians buried in the two soccer fields in Fallujah. Along with Bush's words: "The days of rape rooms, torture chambers, and mass graves is over"
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