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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:32 PM Original message |
The War is Lost. The War is Lost. The War is Lost. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. In the famous words of John Cleese: |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. America is better than this |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
102. Geo. Washington kept slaves through fraud instead of freeing them, ok? |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Abu Ghraib incident exposes *W* for dim bulb that he is... |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
101. No. It exposes Americans, all of us, for what we are. Ignorant and violent |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. The truth shall set us free |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. So they classified it as secret, huh? |
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FlemingsGhost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. It sure is... and we all lost. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:44 PM Original message |
The logical approach... |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. As a freeper posted today... |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. Did the freepers nail |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. Pogo had it right |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. The only thing we had going into this was our "moral authority..." |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. You are very close to being labeled Enemy Combatant |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. The war was lost when the first bomb fell, Will. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
114. It was actually lost well before that first bomb... |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. This could be the first administration... |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. Excellent summary of events, Will. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. What systems can we put in place |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. Further... |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
13. Analogy not Vietnam or Afghanistan, but the Sicilian Expedition of Athens |
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webtrainer (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. the defeat of the Sicilian expedition was . . . |
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scottxyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
55. Thank you for the info, Markses |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
92. The "Sicilian Expedition"... |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. very true |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. Maybe it is to ride in to the next election in glory? |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. Oh Will... |
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drfemoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
17. WE know that .. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. It was lost before we ever did anything .... |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
20. There could no more be an effective "war" on terror, than a war on lying! |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
21. Don't forget handing faluja to republican Guards - still in old uniforms |
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Red State Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
22. I Disagree |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. "..war should not be used..." |
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toddzilla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. you don't think we are there to stay? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
70. That darn Liberal Media..... |
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Red State Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #70 |
78. I'm just going by what is told by people actually over there.... |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
73. Then why do 70% of Iraqis want us out? |
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never cry wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
81. Um, is your family Iraqi? |
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Red State Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. As I said, they are just reporting their experiences |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
104. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
108. Thanks Fred (Doni's husband) |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
109. there are NO good OPTIONS on the WAR table anymore |
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WVhill (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
113. I'm glad you posted that. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
115. Incredible. Do you really believe that the NeoCons had ANY.... |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. WHO RAN CELL BLOCKS 1A and 1B ? WHO DID THEY REPORT TO? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. And who ordered the lady General to give that space to them ? |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Almost certainly these contractors had a liaison |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
24. We lost before the first shot was fired for a very simple reason |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. This is just damned sad. Made all the moreso because it's just |
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Miles dEath (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
27. The war better not be lost |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Another crusader... |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Huh? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. k |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. "Fight for freedom and liberty or lose them" |
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Miles dEath (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Submitting to Islamic law |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Not gonna happen |
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Miles dEath (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Not buying |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
87. Oh, brother. Now it's the "Islamic Domino Effect". What a hoot. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
94. In that case... |
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JohnOneillsMemory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
105. The occupiers removed 'God' from their flag and are putting it on ours. |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
123. talkin about Bu$h and the re-thugs are we .... |
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FlemingsGhost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Writing from Iraq or Afghanistan, Miles? |
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Miles dEath (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Walk the walk? |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Hope they still have veterans benefits |
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Miles dEath (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Vets benefits |
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FlemingsGhost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. As you should not. But I will... |
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dolo amber (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Sad story |
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playahata1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
96. If you are computer-literate enough, |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. You funny Newbie... |
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Miles dEath (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Apologize |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
111. I'm calling bullshit! |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
52. Terrific. You might want to start here at home, though... |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. First of all, it's "Lose" with one fucking O |
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Blue_Chill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
80. Last I checked there was no 8 in 'win' |
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Star (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
62. I've heard it all before |
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Zero Gravitas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:08 AM Response to Reply #27 |
74. There's no such thing as a "war on terror" |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
93. Obviously, you also "can't afford"... |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #27 |
110. Baaaaaa. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. Oh come on, folks. |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Al CIAda must be destroyed, no doubt. |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. The "War on Terror" is |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Right, like invading Vietnam was a police action. |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. I'll meet ya half way... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. How about the War Against People Who Have Tried or Plan to |
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Star (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Like Timothy McVeigh? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Yes, like Timothy McVeigh. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
35. Shaking my head, but WE are as much a victim as they are. |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
59. Yep. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
95. It's a damn shame, then... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. I am still peeved that Howard Dean was marginalized enough |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
39. This is the subject of Nightline tonight |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
42. There's Only One Way Out That Has Any Chance In Hell of Accomplishing |
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The Lone Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
50. Only a bone-headed Republican didn't know |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:05 AM Response to Reply #50 |
72. More like Hitler's retreat from russia. |
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latebloomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. Actually I am GLAD that all this is coming to light |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #53 |
112. I agree....it's good that it's coming out. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
54. Can you imagine the outcry if.. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
57. The War is Lost,.........? ...... Bush is TOAST |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
60. Sad, very sad... |
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ProdigalProfligate (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
61. Yep. ANOTHER war is lost. |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
63. Yes, while I share |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Winnable? Kerry can not WIN the war on terrorism or the war in Iraq. |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. first of all, "winning" anything with this administration |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Why are we in Iraq? |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. First of all |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. You used the word "win"--you called it a "war" |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. you know... |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Which war will Kerry win? |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
64. Eat poop, freep |
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Red State Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
83. Who is it you are calling a Freep? |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Clue. |
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Red State Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. This was directed to Will Pitt... |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. No one |
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Red State Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. Thanks.. |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
65. The words of William M. (Boss) Tweed came to me this week: |
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CaptainClark23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
66. Theres another war going on. |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #66 |
79. Yes, Iraq is only one battle in this larger war of which you speak |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
68. The torture has dishonored the very reason for us being there |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. "REASON?" What "reason" was that? |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
88. The torture has dishonored the WMD claims? The al Qaeda connections? |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #88 |
126. this was their LAST and FINAL of their MANY LIES for WHY we went in |
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heidiho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
82. Thank you, Will, it made me cry for this country |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
97. Kick for posterity (nt) |
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greatauntoftriplets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
100. There never EVER was any way to win... |
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BabsSong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
103. You might know that, Will, but much more importantly is that the |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
107. Why did we ever got ourselves into this quag-fucking-mire? |
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laura888 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
117. thank you for this well-written post |
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BonjourUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
119. What reasons ?? |
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AliceWonderland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
125. Some felt the tear in the moral fabric |
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129. Everything you say here is true, Will, and yet |
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