Rumsfeld Planned for Torture - World Court Withdrawal

[LeftHander]

Lets look back in time two years. The war on terror was just beginning to ramp up and the quest by Donald Rumsfeld and the rest of the NeoCon hawks to spur the U.S. into a premetive attack on Iraq was well on its way.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2002/n05072002_200205071.html


Rumsfeld was quoted in the above linked article, "The United States will regard as illegitimate any attempt by the court or state parties to the treaty to assert the ICC's jurisdiction over American citizens". He went further to say ."..particularly troubling in the midst of a difficult, dangerous war on terrorism. There is a risk that the ICC could attempt to assert jurisdiction over U.S. service members, as well as civilians, involved in counterterrorist and other military operations -- something we cannot allow."

Does this indicate that Rumsfeld was planning on allowing the use of extrodinary interrogation tactics as a means of collecting intelligence? It certainly appears that way. Because right now had we been part of this international court certainly Donald Rumsfeld and several others in the military intelligence leadership would be subject to prosecution for international crimes.

Clearly the actions of RUmsfeld and Wolfowitz were preparing to prosecute the "war on terror" utilizing all means of modern warfare including contemporary humniliation torture techniques and good old fashioned beatings.

Here is his statement form May 6, 2002:

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2002/b05062002_bt233-02.html

His most chilling quote from the above link foretells the conviction that he had in covering his ass.

"For a strong deterrent, it is critical that the U.S. be leaning forward, not back. We must be ready to defend our people, our interests, and our way of life. We have an obligation to protect our men and women in uniform from this court and to preserve America's ability to remain engaged in the world. And we intend to do so."

Bush literally unsigned the treaty at Rumsfled urgings. What type of conversations went down between Rumsfeld and Bush at this time. Was there and understanding that the methods exposed in the the recent torture photos were going to get the "green light"?

As Americans we should make every effort to find out.

[Timefortruth]

1. When I think my contempt can't grow any deeper,

they surprise me again.

[Papa]

2. Nice Post

This needs to be the focus now.

[LeftHander]

3. I agree this needs to be brought up...

In hearings today!

[workforpower]

4. Not really.

The world court functions when the legal systems in a particular country will not act within its own laws. Of course USA did not sign it.

If you think that anyone will be prescuted. Think again. Power sails, Justice fails. Alway is always will be. Humans never change.

[Papa]

6. Read this

http://www.hrw.org/editorials/2002/icc0731.htm


good analysis of why it's important to belong. Im at work so I don't have lots of time to post the relevant arguments, but read it if you have some time.

[SEpatriot]

5. The same old gang...

Rumsfeld is part of the same old gang who have been bringing us foreign policy shenanigans and unauthorized covert ops for years.

The people who helped bring you the Iran-Contra affair and the abuses in Honduras, among other things are:

"...a disciplined network of zealous, like-minded individuals. Centered in Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith's office and around Richard Perle in the Defense Policy Board in the Pentagon, this exclusive group of officials operates under the aegis of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney. "

http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8625

These people and their shadow ops are virtually untouchable here,and they want guarantees that they won't be touched anywhere.

[Corgigal]

7. They also un-did

Tricky Dick's biological ban. Spooky patterns developing.