MSNBC just had a clip from Kerry in Vietnam

[Nashyra]

they are using the flip-flop rhetoric because some of his statements on the Dick Cavett show. When is the fucking Kerry team going to come out and just have Kerry give a press conference and say
"I went to Vietnam, the * chose to stay home" I'll debate the * anywhere, anytime, anyplace until then You the media either make the * put up or shut. I can't stand it anymore, what the fuck is wrong with this country? I am so angry right now I could cry, why is the press not reporting about the fact that the * WAS running as the war president and has changed his might about that. Sorry I can't even think straight.

[ChickMagic]

1. What I wish

I wish they'd show videotape of what Bush was doing 35 years ago - you know - just to be fair. :eyes:

[still_one]

2. Sorry, but you might as well expect this from the media

This is why it will be a miracle if Kerry wins

We have quite a few idiots in this country...

[RandomKoolzip]

3. What's funny is that they're using Kerry's views in 1971

and his somewhat changed views in 2004 as a kind of compare/contrast smear, to show him as a "flip-flopper."

However, in 1971, * thought booze and cocaine were just the greatest, and now he doesn't. Does that make HIM a flip-flipper, too?

[Bandit]

11. Remember how the Media said in 2000 that we shouldn't go back

twenty or thirty years but that we should look at the candidate today and judge on todays standards. Funny how quickly they forget. What's good for the goose has to be good for the gander so if they insist on going back over thirty years for some select clips from Kerry we must insist they do the same for both Bush* and for Cheney. Maybe for Tom Delay also. Remeber his quote "I wanted to join the service but minorities had all the spots filled up and I couldn't get in."

[senseandsensibility]

4. I understand

sometimes the media whoredom becomes too much, even after we've been exposed to it for three years. Occasionally, as with this issue, they outdo even their whorish standards, and it is infuriating! Sadly, I think we should brace ourselves for more of it. There is literally NO depths to which the * administration and the media won't sink to ensure a * victory, and their precious tax cuts.

[checks-n-balances]

5. Funny how often MSNBC's Lisa Myers breaks anti-Dem news...

Is she on that beat exclusively?

I think Kerry needs a good anti-Rove advisor - one who anticipates all the worst and angles that will come out about the candidate, and can help formulate a response.

All the better when he names a VP candidate who can do some of the rebuttals himself.

[kentuck]

6. An attempted hatchet job by the GOP lapdog, Lisa Myers

with a report that has already been shown on other networks....from 34 years ago! Where was GWBush and what was he doing 34 years ago? Now that would be a story!

[rkc3]

7. Kerry

is in big trouble at the moment. Here's a guy who needs to show the nation he is strong, has held strong beliefs, and has strength of character. The idea that he is better qualified only because bush is a nit-wit will not win him the election.

It's not the media's fault Kerry is portrayed in this manner, he's letting bush define him and until he shows his strength, bush will continue to run the country.

And playing bush's game by calling bush a flip-flopper because of his drug/alcohol abuse, cowardice, and absence of taking any stand prior to 1995 is not going to cause any voters to switch to Kerry's side.

Kerry needs to let America know that he can challenge bush and he should call bush out on a number of topics. Until this happens, Kerry will continue to be defined by the bush administration and will continue to fall behind in the polls.

[robbedvoter]

12. Nice recitation of the talking points. You can go back now. We ain't buyin

It's not the media's fault Kerry is portrayed in this manner, he's letting bush define him and until he shows his strength, bush will continue to run the country.

Youp. It was also Gore's fault that he invented the internet. The media is NEVER at fault (unless for being liberal). Nice try.

[r_u_stuck2]

8. Got to remember

MSNBC is owned in part by GE. If you remember Jack Welch was the one who told the newsroom to call the 2000 election for B*. Do not expect this one sided treatment to disappear.

There is no independent news media. CBS comes the closest.

[bluedog]

9. He was a DRUNK in the 70's..

While in the Guard, Bush joined his father's second campaign for the Senate, in 1970. The younger Bush was at his dad's side on Election Night.

"It appears that we've lost the race," said George Bush Sr. in 1970. "...Needless to say, I congratulate Lloyd Bentsen and wish him the very best of luck."

That kicked off the 1970s for the Bushes. Senior Bush went on to a number of presidential appointments - to the United Nations, to China, as director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). George W. Bush, meanwhile, began what he called his "nomadic" years.

He worked in a few political campaigns, and there was plenty of tennis, golf, dating and drinking.

"We did drink," says Hannah. "But it was - we drank what people gave us to drink... And if we went to a party and they were serving liquor, then we would drink it and we would drink it until it was gone."

In 1973, Bush decided to try business school. He got into Harvard. The campus was anti-war, anti-Nixon, uncongenial for Republicans. As at Yale, Bush wasn't crazy about some of the attitude he found at Harvard.

more:::This is a text adaptation of CNN's Special Report, "Living the Bush Legacy," which aired Sunday, October 29 at 10 p.m. EDT.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/democracy/bush/stories/bush/

[zbdent]

10. I'd like Kerry to come up to the mike and say

"I went to Vietnam, and *'s and Rove's tactics don't scare me one bit. BRING IT FUC-ING ON!"