Rumsfeld Hearing 5/6/04 Thread 8

[proud patriot]

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thread 7

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Senator Clinton up Now :D

[Richardo]

1. Hillary: Release of the pics "missing the point"

Going at Rummy's "kill the messenger" tack. Go, Hill!

[VolcanoJen]

4. Yes, and she had to change her prepared line of questioning...

... in order to address that.

Thank you, Senator Clinton!!

[linazelle]

11. Love those lyrics in your sig line Jen....

[VolcanoJen]

45. 35 years ago, Creedence got it right.

There are so many comparisons that can be drawn between Vietnam and Iraq, and I feel that Creedence's song "Fortunate Son" is about as eloquent as it gets.

Thanks, linazelle! I wish I'd have written them myself. :-)

[happynewyear]

2. Go Hillary!

Senator Clinton is nailing Rummy to the cross!

Go Hillary Go!!!

[nonconformist]

3. ROCK ON HIL!!

[mourningdove92]

5. Go Senator Clinton!

Wow, she has her "DONT TRY THE BULLSHIT ON ME" face.

[VelmaD]

This is way better than asking a question...

I'd like to know what the hell they're doing about making sure they're getting training too. It's not enough to punish the guilty from teh past. You have to do SOMETHING to make sure it doesn't happen again.

[maddezmom]

6. going to have to get the transcript of that question...Clinton is on fire!

[NewJeffCT]

16. what was the question?

For the cubebound of us...thanks?

[maddezmom]

asking about the leaked reports of abuse at Gitmo

Yee...and remarking that the tone was set when it was announced that prisoners would not have the rights of Geneva Convention...much much more.

[Richardo]

7. Going after the government leaks to smear Yee!!

Yeah baby!!!

If anyone knows the VRWC, it's Bill and Hill

[proud patriot]

8. She also uses a rummy quote about Geneva conventions not

applying to combatants she said "I believe this set the tone"
of what is acceptable .

[mourningdove92]

She said "This sent a message"

Glad she threw that in.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. I thin Rummy realizes he is done... end of story

but his officers are also getting sick

stars or stripes, people will be forced to be held accountable

[troublemaker]

10. Yea Senator Clinton!

Excellent question about the Chaplain case.

[0007]

Will the other hearing be on tv?

[0007]

19. Yes

[Solly Mack]

12. cRummy still bemoaning the release of information

"released a secret document..."

[Postman]

13. the report was well known in the same way that, according to Cliff May,

it was well known that Valerie Plame was an undercover CIA agent working along lines of WMD's when she was exposed as such by this administration.

[Selteri]

14. Rummy won't answer the questions

I can't believe the spin attempts being done, this is horrific, he wouldn't look at her at first, then diverted his eyes while she addressed him then of this and now he's scarping out.

[Richardo]

15. Rummy: "The illegal release...." Still his strategy.

Disputes, does not answer.

[SuffragetteSal]

28. heads bettter roll or we're in trouble

apparently there are charges of rape and murder...more to come or something about it getting worse. This really worries me and how the world will react...Somebody better be held responsible, somebody better resign or step down. This is bad.

[74dodgedart]

58. Somebody needs to go to jail..

[louis-t]

72. Yeah, by the way Suff, I want to address something

the media keeps reporting that a male soldier 'had sex with a female inmate'. Can you say RAPE? Jeez, that pisses me off.

[spotbird]

17. If the information wasn't in Pentagon when the photos "illegally

leaked" how did Meyer know to call Rummy's buddy Rather?

They should get their lies straight.

[Oddman]

18. Rummy STILL has not answered a single question . . .

Not a single question . . . He's skating . . .and they are letting him skate . . .

[Wind Dancer]

20. Hilary made excellent points

YEAH

[0007]

34. She was great and now Mark Dayton is getting after Myers

This fucking John Warner is letting the time run out on the dems.

[VolcanoJen]

21. WTF!?? CBS just stopped coverage, right after Hillary's questions!

The hearings are over, says Dan Rather.

What in the hell???

[Occulus]

23. CSPAN still has it

[VolcanoJen]

48. Unbelievable! CBS cuts off the hearing, just as CBS becomes the FOCUS...

... of the hearing!

:eyes:

[TeeYiYi]

64. Be sure to check out what happened after Hlllary . . .

. . . Hi VolcanoJen. That happened to me too. OUTRAGE. So I hurried and tuned in to C-SPAN. Be sure you do the same. It really gets interesting afte that.

TYY

[LizW]

22. Did he even attempt to answer Hillary's question

about why the Guantanimo chaplain case, which had no basis in fact, was so well known in the press, and the Taguba report, which enumerated much more egregious acts, was classified and even Congress did not know about it?

I thought that was an excellent question, and his response was inconprehensible.

[gasperc]

36. an hour ago he said there was a press conf. discuss the abuse issues

now he says he doesn't know how Hillary could say that this info was known by many for a long time


boy they are pissed abou the word suppressed!!

[Wind Dancer]

24. Rum is getting nasty now

[Occulus]

26. He's losing his temper

Whining. Sounds like a baby.

He's done.

[frank frankly]

38. he is backing out the door screaming, as usual

maybe a mistake if any senators

rummy won't answer when he was told about CBS

runnning out the clock.

[Richardo]

25. This guy from Arkansas is taking the Admin to task for misleading Congress

about troop strength, money, prison abuse. Any more surprises?

[Richardo]

33. Who called CBS?

GO!!

[Postman]

27. You shitcanned Shinseki who argued for more troops...

before the invasion because you had your own idea on how to do this..

Which acted as an example to the rest of the officer corps not to cross the radicals running the show..

[Solly Mack]

29. cRummy just whined

it was a beautiful sight...

[mtnester]

30. Rumsfield is pissed

he asked to be excused and they would not let him go. He got louder and obnoxious...oh GOD here comes the Myers calling CBS to suppress the report question which shows him to be a LIAR about when the Pentagon had this!

[JHB]

31. My lord, who likes surprises?

Gosh, golly didn't he cut off talk of troop levels before the war?

[BeyondGeography]

32. He's one testy and wild-eyed mofo

Here's a guy who's not used to being fucked with.

This is fun.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. Dayton

did you supress this report? Did you try to supress news, is this the way for military officers in this country to act?

Lord, Myers looks pissed, they have been caught....

[proud patriot]

42. YEAH ! Dayton Rocks he is pissed and he pissed off Myers ..Ha ha

LOL ...We just saw a bit of Myers' arrogance ..

[nadinbrzezinski]

57. Admitedly you need some arrogance to reach

that high, but he knows he is in trouble now

[Emboldened Chimp]

37. Go Dayton!

He's taking Myers to task!

Warner had to bang the gavel!

[nonconformist]

39. "that's a very serious allegation!" - Myers

referring to if he called CBS to repress the report on the abuse.

LOL!

[Emboldened Chimp]

44. No shit, Sherlock

:eyes:

[Postman]

40. Sen. Dayton...awesome...

It still is out of line for a "democracy" to have the military command authority to squelch "news"

[maddezmom]

41. Dayton: getting to the heart of the matter delaying the release of photos

Suppression of the press. Myers is deep in the coverup.

[Thrill]

51. Dayton kicking ass as always

He is a no nonsense

[Wind Dancer]

43. Dayton is on fire

[LittleApple81]

47. Suppressing the democracy at home!!! good! n/t

[maddezmom]

53. rummy's body language...whooo blowing Dayton off

[berner59]

54. Great way to end it!!!!

Dayton was the best...maybe he was just fed up with all the crap these guys were spewing...

[nonconformist]

46. Go Dayton! awesome!

[No2W2004]

49. Dayton was one of the 3

Senators that voted against Negroponte

Excellent

[convict_9653]

66. I love Dayton

who else voted against him?

[Oddman]

50. Dayton is ROCKING!!!!

Fantastic!!!!!

[mtnester]

52. Rumsfield pointed to his watch, PISSED off

ON CAMERA

[Emboldened Chimp]

55. Dayton needs to slow down!

Asking great questions, but he's talking faster than he can think!

[lebkuchen]

59. because he lacked time, unfortunately.

He was a highlight.

[readmylips]

56. Rumbutt waving his watch at Senator Dalton...

I got to go...I'm finished here.

Shit, I missed Hillary.

[VolcanoJen]

65. WHEW! It's over. Thanks Senators Dayton, Graham, Byrd.

I'm literally sweating over here... just anger, and contempt. The hearing could have been better, had the Senators been given more than FIVE FREAKING MINUTES to ask questions.

[Emboldened Chimp]

60. oh boy, Kitty Kevorckian is up...

[VolcanoJen]

61. The Cat Killer is up (Frist) n/m

[LittleApple81]

67. He talk like a self-righteous preacher...eeewwww!

[CrownPrinceBandar]

62. Dayton got robbed..............

his answer was "expidited"?

[nonconformist]

63. What a PERFECT ending!!

[Oddman]

68. So Rummy skates and bribes victims of torture

Proud to be an American!






Torture Accomplished

[proud patriot]

69. cspan Clinton making comments now

they will be taking calls also

[Selteri]

70. Crucifiction Avoidal Action

Rumsfeld protected himself from being completely cruicified by taking the blame, even if he continually shifted it off of himself afterwards, if he hadn't people would be calling for his head... though it was an obvious political ploy. He didn't answer most of the questions... well time to wait for round 2.

[nadinbrzezinski]

71. oh he also placed some of the blame with bush

[louis-t]

73. still chuckling about the 'dog ate my homework' excuse

at the beginning re: McCain's question about who was in charge of the guards. "Oh, we forgot to bring it".

[proud patriot]

74. House Committee Convening ...Please continue here

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