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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:58 PM
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"Rape Pits" the Bush Version! He is now in charge of MEGA Rape Pits!
Read "SLATE ONLINE" and check out the link to see how how the "Rape Pit" thing figures into the Chimp/Rummy Defense!

Here:
Rape Rooms: A Chronology
What Bush said as the Iraq prison scandal unfolded.
By William Saletan
Updated Wednesday, May 5, 2004, at 7:54 PM PT
http://slate.msn.com/id/2100014
READ THE COLUMN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO AUDIO!



Listen to this story on NPR's Day to Day.

"The Iraqi people are now free. And they do not have to worry about the secret police coming after them in the middle of the night, and they don't have to worry about their husbands and brothers being taken off and shot, or their wives being taken to rape rooms. Those days are over."—Paul Bremer, Administrator, Coalition Provisional Authority, Sept. 2, 2003

"Iraq is free of rape rooms and torture chambers."—President Bush, remarks to 2003 Republican National Committee Presidential Gala, Oct. 8, 2003

"There was an announcement by the Iraqi Governing Council earlier this week about the tribunal that they have set up to hold accountable members of the former regime who were responsible for three decades of brutality and atrocities. … We know about the mass graves and the rape rooms and the torture chambers of Saddam Hussein's regime. … We welcome their decision to move forward on a tribunal to hold people accountable for those atrocities."—Bush Press Secretary Scott McClellan, White House press briefing, Dec. 10, 2003

"One thing is for certain: There won't be any more mass graves and torture rooms and rape rooms."—Bush, press availability in Monterrey, Mexico, Jan. 12, 2004

"On 19 January 2004, Lieutenant General (LTG) Ricardo S. Sanchez, Commander, Combined Joint Task Force Seven (CJTF-7) requested that the Commander, US Central Command, appoint an Investigating Officer (IO) in the grade of Major General (MG) or above to investigate the conduct of operations within the 800th Military Police (MP) Brigade. LTG Sanchez requested an investigation of detention and internment operations by the Brigade from 1 November 2003 to present. LTG Sanchez cited recent reports of detainee abuse."—Report by Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba to Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, senior U.S. military official in Iraq, describing a formal inquiry launched on Jan. 19, 2004
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"Sources have revealed new details from the Army's criminal investigation into reports of abuse of Iraqi detainees, including the location of the suspected crimes and evidence that is being sought. U.S. soldiers reportedly posed for photographs with partially unclothed Iraqi prisoners, a Pentagon official told CNN on Tuesday."—Barbara Starr, CNN, Jan. 21, 2004

"Saddam Hussein now sits in a prison cell, and Iraqi men and women are no longer carried to torture chambers and rape rooms …"—Bush, remarks on "Winston Churchill and the War on Terror," Feb. 4, 2004

"Seventeen U.S. soldiers have been suspended of duties pending the outcome of the investigation into alleged allegations of abuse of Iraqi prisoners, a U.S. officer said Monday."—Associated Press, Feb. 23, 2004

"etween October and December 2003, at the Abu Ghraib Confinement Facility (BCCF), numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees. This systemic and illegal abuse of detainees was intentionally perpetrated by several members of the military police guard force. … The allegations of abuse were substantiated by detailed witness statements (ANNEX 26) and the discovery of extremely graphic photographic evidence. … I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel included the following acts:

a. Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet;

b. Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees;

c. Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing;

d. Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time;

e. Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear;

f. Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped;

g. Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them;

h. Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture; …

j. Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture;

k. A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee;

l. Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee …

These findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements. …

Much more of Bush Chronology of Rape Rooms....and how this relates to Torture Revelations.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2100014
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:05 PM
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1. Hmmm.
k. A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee;

Can we say RAPE? I can't imagine any situation in which that would happen without some form of coercion/intimidation.
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Honest_Abe Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:19 PM
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2. Regardless,
the nature of their guard/detainee relationship makes it rape. Just as a 25-year old can't have "consentual" sex with a 14-year old.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 05:09 PM
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5. Good point
And welcome to DU!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 07:49 PM
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3. If one goes to Saletin's article and counts how many times Chimp says
"Rape Rooms" it's kind of disgusting, given that he uses the term AFTER he knew that Rape was going on in American Prisons in "Gitmo" and Iraq and wherever else we "fly our American Flag."

How can this EVER be EXCUSED? Rape of Males or Females and Violations of each and every one of our OWN RIGHT TO SEXUAL PRIVACY ...FREE FROM INVASION! :grr:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 05:07 PM
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4. Bush's obsession about "Rape Pits" is coming home to bite him in his
butt! One wonders what his perverse obsession was with this. Maybe he saw the photo's sooner than we thought. Sick mind, to keep talking about this and then it turns out we are carrying on where Saddam left off. Disgusting..:nuke:
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 05:11 PM
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6. What you have written is perfect
For a Letter To The Editor.

Or, to make copies of and "accidently" leave laying around in places where people are bound to see it, and are bored enough to read anything they find.

Mind if your words are copied and used?

Kanary
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