Why the outpouring of "compassion" for the prison abused when

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the thousands, at least, of Iraqis blown to bits, during our "shock and awe" extravaganza and continuing freedom massacres are not even mentioned.

Indeed, many of the "questioners" today went out of their way to state what an honorable thing it is that we invaded a nation, unprovoked, and that posed no threat to us - for lies, and how wonderful it is that we have re-opened the schools and hospitals.

But what about those who's very bodies, or family members' bodies, and homes and livelihoods were obliterated for the petty satisfaction of our "leaders"?

Where is the official compassion for them? Where is the official outrage for their murders? Where is the official apology for those shameful and criminal acts?

[KT2000]

1. Good point

The term "shock and awe" has become a slang term now. Thinking of the people that were blown up during that disgrace just does not occur to people. When appropriate, I remind people that it was an atrocity with a cute name.

[not systems]

2. The cathode ray has become the retina of the minds eye.

To quote Dr Brian Oblivion.

It's the Images on TV.

If the dead maimed and dying were shown on TV people would be against it.

Instead it is like a green screen video game for
most people.

Always the burned car is shown never the burned body.

With the exception of the four mercenaries because that
pumped up the 5 minute hate needed to resume bombing last
week.

[aquart]

3. Please. Our legislators went out of their way

To proclaim the higher morality of invading a sovereign nation which had made not the smallest move to attack us, nor could if it tried.

Do NOT try to alter that. They'll just dig in. They authorized a war of aggression and it's going to take years maybe decades to face up to it. Would you admit to condoning mass murder? Take a moment to consider.

THIS, however, these clear pictures of torture, run absolutely counter to that personal American John Wayne self image. THIS is how to fight them. THIS is how to force a peace. And a withdrawal.

[TheWizardOfMudd]

4. We're fighting "the enemy"

I heard several questioners make this statement at the hearings today.

Apparently, the enemy consists of the Iraqis who want us to go away.

This war is so twisted, people have lost their minds, except us.

[DrWeird]

5. Unfortunately...

most people don't have a problem with innocent people getting killed in war. For them the war itself is a valid excuse. But even they can't excuse this.

[the Kelly Gang]

6. absolutely right but when I speak about that to others their minds

are completely closed..it's weird and something I've never encountered before in my life.
I genuinley think that war has become a television show that is not real anymore to them..people shoot guns and othes fall down dead as though they just went to sleep.

It's all good guys and bad guys and nothing inbetween.
They only took 9/11 seriously because there was no escaping it.

I still have friends who think the boy Ali who lost his arms was the only Iraqi child hurt, and he's now being looked after.

In this day of mass media it seems there has been an overload of information were nothing filters into their minds anymore.

[Salviati]

7. I posted most of this in another thread...

but I've been thinking about this for a couple of days now, and here's what I think it's about:

it's rationalization run amok. We've seen tons of pictures of the horrors this war has inflicted on the Iraqis, most of whom were undoubtedly completely innocent. But the mind can always come up with some rationalization, some scenario however unlikely, where the horror is mitigated; an unfortunate family who happened to be living next to a den of 'evil-doing terra-ists', a hapless victim caught in the crossfire, or the tragic victim of an unavoidable misunderstanding. The innocent victims of the violence, to the rationalizing mind are seen as unfortunate side effects of the greater good that we're trying to achive, 'collateral damage' to be minimized, but something that cannot be avoided.

With the torture of these prisoners, however, there is no rationalization. This was done out of pure cruelty and sadism. These prisoners were helpless and powerless and under the complete control of the soldiers who abused them, there can be no rationalization to mitigate this...