The Torture Is Simply The Natural Evolution of the Reagan Revolution

[stopbush]

Think about it.

Many still believe that Reagan gave America back it's sense of pride. Well, I'd say that some of us never lost pride in America and were actually pretty disturbed by the hubris and ignorance exhibited by Reagan over his two terms.

Reagan believed in and sanctioned war crimes. Reagan believed in and promoted class warfare in this country and abroad. Reagan believed in and sanctioned law breaking on a massive scale to support his demented ideological beliefs. Reagan talked about "mortgaging our children's future" and proceeded to turn the USA into the largest debtor nation in history. Reagan believed in and encouraged socio-religious warfare in the national discourse.

And, Reagan - like bush - was a shallow man for whom all of the religious, patriotic and self-righteous posturing were but empty gestures targeted for purely political purposes at an uninformed and distinctly uninterested populace.

The difference between Reagan and bush II is that Reagan had a Democratic Congress to deal with that acted *on occasion* as a check to his idiocy. With the R takeover of Congress in 2002, all safeguards have been removed and all bets are off. That, and a solid twenty years of RW vitriol and hatred focused like a laser on intelligent and progressive thought in this country and, voilá!: rampant torture in 2004.

So, let's all thank Saint Ronnie for lowering the bar and setting America on the disastrous ideological course that is now running its sadly predictable end game.

[whistle]

1. Why is Oliver North in Iraq?

[corporatewhore]

2. Abu Ghraib is the result of anti arab racism and hate check it out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1555436

[Cleita]

3. I think the GOP ought to be outlawed for what it stands for now.

These are not Republicans but Nazis. The Nazis gave lip service to socialism and workers, but were nothing more than totalitarian gangsters. So is the Republican leadership of today. They must be held accountable for their crimes.

[maggrwaggr]

4. I agree. This is important. It's when the hatred began

It's when Rush Limbaugh came on the scene and started his genre of media, to where he is now followed and outdone by the likes of Coulter and Hannity and Savage.

Hate mongering has become an industry in this country, a very profitable one.

Personally I don't think hate speech should be legal, people who are involved in being paid for hate speech should be held accountable. After all, lynch mobs are illegal, as is shouting "fire" in a crowded movie theater.

This country is at a place where the right-wing has fanned the flames of hatred ON PURPOSE to develop an entire segment of the population who seriously hates everybody who doesn't think like them and is willing to commit violence against them.

Those to the left of this (which includes everybody else, even moderates) are finally starting to realize that they've been getting their asses kicked by people who are NOT INTERESTED IN DEBATE OR REASON.

I am one of these people, and I am tired of seeing these hateful bastards getting their way.

It is time to fight them back on their own terms. We need to destroy them. The only way a hateful, violent people can be subdued is to defeat them, and defeat them so soundly that they actually realize the severity of their crimes.

The way Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan was defeated, these people in our own country need to be not only defeated, they need to have their noses rubbed in the filth of their own defeat so that they never can rise again.

Otherwise it will simply continue.

[Arugula Latte]

6. Yes

It is time to grind them into the ground. It may take years or decades, but we're in the fight of our lives against the rightwing. I think more and more people realize this; we need to rise up and kick their asses back into the caves and rocks from which they oozed.

No more Mr. and Mrs. Nice Liberal/Nice Moderate.

[rumguy]

5. nice line

that should be a lyric in a punk rock song...

it's true too...

[maggrwaggr]

7. kick

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