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Sat May-08-04 10:13 PM
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Mario Cuomo favors Bob Graham for vp nominee |
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Edited on Sat May-08-04 10:13 PM by Bombtrack
I just caught him with that Turd Cal Thomas. He said he personally favored Graham. Of the many reasons he stated why he said that while he's laid back he's also the smartest guy of the many good choices.
So far for famous people who've said there choices that favor Graham there's Mario Cuomo and Randi Rhodes. And Bombtrack.
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Sun May-09-04 04:53 AM
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Sun May-09-04 05:31 AM
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greatly, and I agree that Graham is good, especially on national security/intelligence/terrorism, etc.
The only problem is, he comes off as kind of a goofy, old guy, that isn't very exciting.
I'd take him over Gep and Bayh though.
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Sun May-09-04 06:36 AM
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3. Cheney isn't excactly Mr. Charisma |
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But, our own Mr. Charisma, Lieberman, let him off the hook in debates 4 years ago.
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Sun May-09-04 06:40 AM
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Lieberman was terrible in those debates.
I wouldn't mind Graham. I would prefer Edwards or Clark moreso, but Graham wouldn't be bad either. The thing I like about either Clark or Graham is that they would give a great argument against the war, and why it has been a major distraction from the war on terror. It has to be known that Iraq wasn't reponsible for 9/11 and that this war completely unecessary.
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Sun May-09-04 02:07 PM
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I don't know if you can say that about the other possibilities
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Sun May-09-04 02:23 PM
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8. I think clark hates Cheney |
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I'm still hoping for Ed Rendell, but I'll be ecstatic with either Edwards, Clark, or my boy Eddie :)
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Sun May-09-04 10:11 PM
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17. Cheney didn't have to have charisma... |
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...all he had to do was keep quiet and let * charm the press puppies following him.
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Sun May-09-04 02:13 PM
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6. Bob Graham was the most misrepresented |
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and underestimated candidate we had in the primary race. Sure was a shame the way he was disrespected by Dems here at DU. He's a good man with a first rate brain. I admire him very much.
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Sun May-09-04 02:19 PM
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7. That's Right Graham would be best.. |
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Edited on Sun May-09-04 02:21 PM by GOPS Worst Fear
Kerry could wrap up Florida with Graham. Then, set his sites on the other battleground states.Then too IF Kerry gets President maybe Graham can help start the investigation into this Bush adminstration.
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Sun May-09-04 03:55 PM
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Sun May-09-04 02:25 PM
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9. Is Graham even being vetted? |
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I haven't seen his name pop up on the "vetting" list yet.
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Sun May-09-04 09:30 PM
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12. Yes he is. I read as many articles as possible on the veepstakes |
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and it's quite clear that both Florida senators are among the top 10 most likely to get the call.
Graham clearly would like the job as well.
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Sun May-09-04 02:27 PM
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10. Just another reason I love Mario |
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always have always will. Graham is awesome and I'd be very happy if Kerry picked him - personally it would help me get over the fact that Kerry voted for the war resolution....Graham did not.
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Sun May-09-04 09:39 PM
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13. What ever happened to the Mario Cuomo radio show? |
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It just disappeared from the airwaves. Was it shut down or did it move to another station?
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Sun May-09-04 09:43 PM
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14. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.....pick the guy that finished.... |
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dead last in the primaries! (/end sarcasm)
Even the dems didn't want him. Why the hell would the Independents and crossover Republicans?
I doubt he could "deliver Florida" any more than any other Southern candidate.
He may be a sweet guy but he seems wimpy. Wimpy is not what we need.
If Cuomo is considered some kind of oracle, it's no wonder the Dems are so out of power.
I need a price check on some common sense.
And one more thing:
Jesus Fucking Christ!
Are the Dem leaders a bunch of fucking idiots?
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Sun May-09-04 09:59 PM
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15. He didn't finish dead last in the primaries |
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He dropped out do to the fact that the big early fundraising targets and fundraisers that he would have needed had already tacked onto different campaigns by the time he entered which was delayed do to surgery.
He was a victem of circumstance and was in the same place in all the polls as Edwards when he dropped out, and Edwards ended up dropping out last of the major candidates to do so.
He didn't compete in one primary.
What makes a good or bad presidential primary candidate does not neccesarrly make or preclude from making a good or bad presidetial candidate, much less vice predidential candidate.
They all require different things. There are a whole host of reasons Graham would make the best vp candidate, only one of them being the fact that he's the most popular politician in Florida, and not only does he on any credible political scientists paper give Kerry a boost, he gives him a 5 point Boost in a Florida poll from a month ago.
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Sun May-09-04 10:12 PM
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18. I'm going to say one more thing and then leave this alone.... |
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he couldn't raise money, he had to drop out. He was the first to drop out, and to me that is "dead last".
Nonetheless, that is semantics so I can't really argue that further. It's a matter of opinion. However, I will suggest this:
He didn't raise money because a lot of people didn't give a shit about his campaign. That should tell us something. I don't mean to dog the man, but why pick the guy that created very little excitement or interest?
I think in order to get votes, you have to have interest. Bob Graham was not interesting. I am not sure what would have changed between then and now.
He may be "right" on many issues, but that's not enough.
I suppose "getting Florida" is the motivation behind all of this but that's putting a lot of eggs in one basket. Not too wise in my opinion.
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Mon May-10-04 06:54 PM
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I think Graham's a nice guy, but c'mon. A guy who writes down his BM's in a little book and notes every bite of food he consumes? He's obviously got OCD, and should he ever have to run the country, that might be a pretty limiting disability (not as limiting as Bush's borderline IQ, but the Dems can do better than Graham.)
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Mon May-10-04 07:00 PM
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21. He ran Florida for 3 terms And he ran the intelligence committee |
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I'd say that's a pretty good track record for what he's capable of.
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Sun May-09-04 10:08 PM
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16. What ever happened to his son Andrew? |
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Mon May-10-04 06:35 PM
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19. He lost a primary to Carl McCall for NY governor |
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and his wife also cheated on him I believe.
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