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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:10 PM
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TIME Magazine: bush* dream team in total chaos.....(link)

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101040517/wmemo.html

What Happened to Bush's Dream Team?

They used to pretend to get along. Now they don't even bother

By JOHN F. DICKERSON & MATTHEW COOPER

Posted Sunday, May 9, 2004

-snips-

What happened to the dream team? For more than a year, the all-stars in the Bush war council and their staffs have been engaged in nearly open warfare over Iraq and its aftermath, but officials have always maintained that the occasional hard words and bruises were the natural by-products of serious debate fostered by a CEO President who savors a contest of ideas so he can choose the best. That story line is becoming harder to maintain, and last week seemed to mark the moment when everyone stopped feigning propriety.

Top Bush officials griped about what one called Rumsfeld's "destructive arrogance." Says the adviser: "You have no idea what it's like to deal with the United States of Rumsfeld." Colin Powell's closest aides, like chief of staff Larry Wilkerson, were quoted in GQ magazine, saying that Powell was weary of fighting ideological "utopians" in the Administration and being forced to do "damage control" and "apologizing around the world." Powell's foes, perhaps in retaliation, blamed him for being slow to decide to travel to the Middle East to help quell the furor over the abuse scandal. Says a senior Bush official of the open warfare: "It is not very conducive to a healthy working environment."

By letting reporters know the President had dressed down Rumsfeld, the White House joined in the internecine shoving it normally disdains. White House aides insist that the move was intended neither to placate critics who wanted Rumsfeld's head nor to fuel demands for the guillotine. The Bush team wanted to leak a piece of theater to make sure voters knew he was paying attention. Bush not only approved the leak but also made his staff let the Pentagon know it was coming. Others in the White House said the maneuver had an additional purpose: it was a presidential shot sent across the Potomac to the Pentagon, where officials were insisting the White House had been kept in the loop about the abuse investigation."If we hadn't done that, the Pentagon would have said, 'We told the White House; the White House knew,'" says a senior White House official.

But the leak overshot the mark. The report of Bush's displeasure animated the Rumsfeld critics, who along with the press interpreted the move as an attempt to make him the fall guy for the growing scandal. Democrats may have, for the moment, saved the White House, which had begun to imagine the specter of a bipartisan consensus among nodding wise men that Rumsfeld, whom Bush never intended to remove, was finished. Instead, that claim was taken up vocally by partisan Democrats, including House minority leader Nancy Pelosi and presidential challenger John Kerry. At the White House, officials exhaled, happy that the situation was playing out along party lines. "Fortunately they overplayed their hands," said a senior Administration official of the Democrats.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:12 PM
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1. Funny how W's mess becomes the Dems' liability! Time, you slut!
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:23 PM
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2. Democrats overplayed their hands?
I keep wondering...what planet does Time live on?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:36 PM
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9. I agree.
This is a truly desperate revision of events. TIME is either the enemy of truth or permanently out to lunch.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:43 PM
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3. liberaloasis.com is skeptical the "chiding" of Rumsfeld took place
liberaloasis.com is skeptical the "chiding" of Rumsfeld took place

That website speculates that the White House just wanted Senators to think Rumsfeld has already been punished by being "chided" by Bush, and therefore Rumsfeld shouldn't be asked to resign.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:51 PM
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5. Bush "chiding":

"Rummy, whatcha doing this weekend?"

"Golf."

"What's your handicap these days, Don old boy?

"8."

"Really? That's great. See you on Monday."

"Later."
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:44 PM
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4. I agree with their analysis
Edited on Sun May-09-04 08:48 PM by central scrutinizer
This is playing out as best it could for Bushco. They want to drown out any information that they fucking knew months ago about this and did nothing. They want Rummy to fall on his sword for the boy king and this is the perfect way to have it happen. Bushco didn't want to fire him for fear of looking weak in the eyes of their freeper base. This way Rummy can say he can no longer effectively do his job, arrogantly resign and Bushco can point their fingers at the Democrats and the liberal media. Have a few show trials of low level grunts and claim to be a strong leader. I argued against calling for Rummy's head from the start for this very reason.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:39 PM
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10. It's already OUT that * knew in January or before.
His trap was just as glued shut as Rummy's. Firing Rummy may quiet things down for a day or two but the facts are out there and will resurface when the next pictures are displayed. Cat cannot be put back in the bag.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:50 PM
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11. bushco cannot spin aside POW torture, including murder, rape,

extortion, child sodomy, abuse of DEAD people....and ghastly horrendous daily TV photos of POW torture....

upcoming soon on all Americans TV sets....thousands more photos of bush*'s horror show...AND videos...AND torture audio....


there's no way that bush* is going to wiggle his way out of this....America will NOT tolerate any more of chimps corruption and PR lies to cover it all up....


the whole debacle is bush* own doing too....just picture the 'little chimp' sitting in the oval office and DEMANDING that those EVIL Iraqis tell us where the Weapons of Mass Destruction are...everyday...that's the whole meeting for bush*...WHERE ARE THOSE WMD? find out...no matter what, do it, get those WMD....

then, off to his daily nap with condi....and lunch with big karen on the patio...then after a few more drinks and pills, a little slasher TV, and early bedtime....
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:58 PM
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12. Yep, soon 'bush*s little shop of horrors' will be showing at theaters
everywhere. But for the film's grand finale I suggest that the entire * administration, as well as their bottom feeding "advisers", strip buck naked and show those A-rabs how to do it the RIGHT way.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 08:55 PM
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6. I want Rummy to stay on so Kerry can
pound on Rummy (and of course Bush*) and this whole issue day after day on the campaign trail . . .



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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:06 PM
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7. So every time the other party criticizes the president it's political
Although it's hard to overestimate the unbelievable incompetence of the Bush administration. It's not even give them enough rope ... They manage to hang themselves even without a rope.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 09:11 PM
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8. Read this stupendous example of spin:
Strategists in the Bush campaign do not believe the abuse scandal per se will hurt the President's political standing, but they admit that the nearly daily disclosures of depravity contribute to the feeling that Iraq is becoming a bigger mess.

"contributing to the feeling that Iraq is becoming a bigger mess????"

And we thought that the WH was disconnected from reality. Now we know the truth. They occupy an entirely separate dimension!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 10:06 PM
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13. I knew I wasn't in Kansas anymore.
Edited on Sun May-09-04 10:08 PM by saywhat
Just got confused by that address thing. :crazy:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 10:24 PM
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14. Those fuck assholes have no idea what a MESS we are in. They are in Lala
land somewhere in the S Pacific.

Thanks to Bush and his misadventures, the world looks at us with new eyes, wide Open and the picture they see is not a very pretty one.

Bush has shown a history of ineptness, miscalculations, and missteps. And he wants us to trust his decision making for another 4 years?

He has taken the good name of America and sullied it for many years. That they poo poo this means the only way out for them is delusion. Fantasize themselves with rationalization and excuses. Its the Losing coach making excuses and promising us "wait till next year"
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