Politics is a rough sport: WEAR A CUP and PLAY HARD.

[Tyler Durden]

If for one minute anyone is under the delusion that the other side respects "Robert's Rules of Order" or "The Marquis de Queensbury Rules" then I suggest they try posting on FREE REBPUBLIC, go and bookmark NEWSMAX, and glue their TV to FOX.

These people do not care HOW they remain in power, through fair means or foul. It is time we all grew up a little: after all, WE are supposed to be the "grown-ups," NOT THEM.

We should all grow a thicker skin and utilize our own community to practice up for the bar-room brawl that the next big election promises to be.

Remember: REVOLUTIONS DO NOT HAVE RULES.

[Cha]

1. After the 2000 coup I don't see how anyone could think other-

wise!

At least we don't kill People to get what we want!

[JNelson6563]

2. this is true

We should all grow a thicker skin and utilize our own community to practice up for the bar-room brawl that the next big election promises to be.

Remember: REVOLUTIONS DO NOT HAVE RULES.

I find that revolutions are generallymore successful when those on the same side don't do all they can to kill each other.

Perhaps some do not really want this revolution to succeed??

Julie

[DemLikr]

3. Hmmm...so how far does one take that? And how deep are the scars

left behind after the nomination, which embitter the supporters of the losing candidates who have been trashed in the process?

[Skittles]

4. I WEAR CUPS, THANK YOU

:7

[SharonAnn]

10. Me too, two of them.

eom

[DagmarK]

5. I agree mostly, but disagree on one minor point......

"These people do not care HOW they remain in power, through fair means or foul."

I think they actually prefer to have power gained through unfair play! It floats their boat.

Everything else you said -- I agree with.

BUT a lot of people will take your post to mean that we have bruise each other up to "prepare" properly for the battles at hand. And that just won't do, IMO. We should be tough on the opponent, but practice kindness with each other. Be the type of people that we want to see in our society NOW as if things had returned to the world of reason and fair-play. Act "as if" with ourselves but also fight fiercely against a morally decrepit opponent!

**going to eric blumrich's I Hate Republicans is a very good reminder of who we should fight and why!

[Tyler Durden]

9. you all know me here.

And I'm starting to get to know people like Dag even better, so you know I'm not into racism, misogyny, philosophy bashing and the like.

But this thin skinned nonsense is starting to reeeaaallly piss me off. I wouldn't purposefully insult you, you know this. But it is way past time to put the petty bullshit that a lot of people on the left are spewing where it belongs: in the circular file.

We have to get hard here, 'cause a hard rain is going to fall.

[knight_of_the_star]

14. Link

I've seen it, but I forget the link to it

[Stephanie]

6. Good advice posted by somebody at DU

Hit 'em high
Hit 'em low
Hit 'em hard
Hit 'em again


I think that was it - if the original poster has the correct wording, please advise.

No apologies for going after these creeps.

[2cents]

7. Funny thing is

We have no need to play low-down dirty lying politics.

* is so caked in mud, one need only point it out and tell the truth.

[Tyler Durden]

8. I wrote this because I was getting sick and tired...

...of all the weak-assed, namby-pamby-I'm-taking-my-ball-and-going-home BULLSHIT.

SURE we piss ALL OVER each other. NEWS FLASH: THAT IS WHAT THE LEFT ALWAYS DOES.

So at least can't we agree to do it without looking like completely anemic losers?

Lighten up on the reaction, or surrender. No third choice in Politics 101.

[sandnsea]

16. Piss on them, not each other

I'll tell you why what you're actually referring to isn't right. The left is so busy pissing all over each other, nobody's pissing on the right. Bill Maher did it twice on his last show. "Like the Democrats would be any better at finding Osama bin laden in a cave." Oh gee, let's reinforce the idea that Democrats can't lead a war and/or wouldn't be any better at it than Republicans. He then had his little LTV jokes which slaughtered almost every Democratic group or idea, 'Two Guys, A Girl and an Abortion Clinic', way to really make Democrats look like the murdering baby killers we're portrayed as.

That's what we do to each other. The Democratic Party as a unit doesn't have an opportunity to get a message out because before it's even off the ground, the left or the right of the party has killed the messenger. This doesn't help anything because by the time we're done, the message is so dilluted the right can wash it away with a garden hose. No pissing necessary.

We need to figure out how to talk to each other, stop talking to them, and let the pissing really begin.

[October]

20. No replies to your post yet...

Not surprised.

I know what you mean about Bill Maher. As soon as you start cheering him on, he turns against you. He's always been one to play both sides, though all in all, he's been beating up nicely on Bush.

All Maher's HBO ads, however, feature right wingers only -- and their lame ass jokes.

By the way, the mods locked all the threads last night that were commenting on SOME of the DU guys' comments.

[Democat]

11. DU is showing signs of the problems with the Democratic Party

Some thin skinned "nice" people are somehow influencing the mods into worrying about whether people are saying the word fuck rather than fighting against the right wingers.

Getting caught up in arbitrary ridiculous rules of etiquette while the other side is trying to figure out a way to cut off our heads and shove them up our own asses is pathetic.

Here are two of the problems at DU lately:

1. Too much expectation of "niceness" in politics.
2. Too much worrying about stupid little arbitrary rules to protect you from the real world.

We should be thinking big, getting ready for the biggest meanest dirtiest fight in recent political history. Instead, some people here are complaining about the horrors of using the word "slut" instead of "whore", complaining about capital letters, sentence structure, or grammar in posts, and worrying because someone might call Bush an "asshole" instead of a "bad man".

It seems like being "nice" is more important than winning to many Democrats and DU members. That attitude will make us "nice" losers.

[Tyler Durden]

12. Wouldn't you just LOVE it....

...If JUST ONE of our candidates stood up and screamed:

"BUSH IS A MISERABLE, BLOODTHIRSTY, LYING BASTARD, AND IF YOU PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THIS LIKE IT WAS DOG SHIT ON YOUR WHITE CARPET, THEN YOU DESERVE EXACTLY WHAT HE AND HIS FELLOW BASTARDS ARE GOING TO DO TO YOU OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS IF HE STAYS IN OFFICE!"

Wouldn't it do your heart good?

[Democat]

13. That's exactly what Delay and the other Republicans said about Clinton

I'm not sure I would want the Democratic presidential candidates to say those exact words, but I'm glad you said them and I hope you'll continue to be allowed to say them here at DU in the future! :)

The right wing has learned to turn anger into energry (and cash) and we need to beat them at their own game.

[knight_of_the_star]

15. This is not a sport anymore

This is WAR

Remember, Sun Tzu never said there were things you should NOT do to win a war, unless it hampers holding onto what you win. There are no rules in real warfare, which is what the Bushies are practicing. This is war, ladies and gentlemen, and while it is not one with blood and bullets, we should take up that mentality, because that is how the enemy views the situation.

[Tyler Durden]

17. I consult "The Art of War" and the "Book of Five Rings" almost DAILY.

And the Bushites wouldn't know a REAL war if it came up and shot them in the balls.

We can win this thing, if we recognize what victory is, and how we can make the other side get it for us.

VICTORY is BUSH OUT OF OUR WHITE HOUSE. Anything else is gravy.

[DinahMoeHum]

18. "Don't run like a mouse and don't throw marshmallows". . .

as my aunt once said. She used to be on the City Council and school board in Stamford, CT.


:kick:

[Tyler Durden]

19. I couldn't have put it better...

...except that if we occasionally get in the way of a "friendly fire" brickbat, we should let it bounce of the Kevlar.